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Dasus@lemmy.world 20 hours agoNot gonna lie, I’m super jealous after reading that.
Not with the experiences of chickenhouses, I’ve seen the inside of industrial meat production as well. I didn’t see any live ones, so I haven’t been at a slaughterer’s.
But like jealous of the possibility to build a farm.
I’d probably give my left testicle if I could go from this bureaucratic bullshit to sort of homesteading. But in Finland, never gonna happen for me. Way too fucking expensive. And big brother got the family house (at an unfairly discounted rate as well.)
I’ve been thinking of just hunting despite living in an apartment. It’s legal. I’d have to prolly use a bow but thats no issue. (Not the accuracy or knowing how to draw one in general). Even if I did everything legally, I’m pretty sure someone might call the cops if I had a carcasa on my balcony. And despite it being legal, I can’t them coming over because of the weed I grow.
But like a chest freezer.
Factory farming should be abolished.
Yup. Small scale farming at most and well regulated at that.
Machinist@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
That sucks. My wife and I saved and scrimped for years, and put a big chunk of retirement savings into it. We also moved 700mi/1100km buying the place without visiting it to make it happen. Huge leap into the unknown and we got very lucky to make it happen. We realized we needed to get out of the deep south in 2020. Couldn’t afford to leave the country.
Small game should be totally doable for you if you’re allowed to own a shotgun or . 22. (I love squirrel hunting, I harvest deer because we all love venison but find hunting them missrable and boring.) You could even process deer in apartment without your neighbors knowing. Gut in the field. Quarter or at least bisect them at your vehicle. Put parts wrapped in plastic in duffle bags. Carry into apartment. Further processing like skinning/deboning in bathtub/shower. Use cheap coolers with ice to do what is called wet aging the meat(common in the Southern US as it often isn’t cool enough to hang).
Dasus@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
See that’s making assumptions, my American friend.
I see deer all the time and I have a bow, although not a hunting bow, and I don’t think it’d take me that much practice to pass the shooting test for a hunting license with a bow.
But I’d have to field dress it then carry/bike it back to my apartment. And I grow weed, which is illegal, so I don’t know if I want giving cops anymore excuses with my annoying neighbours calling the cops over things they’re not used to, or in the worst case, like a trail of blood going to my door. (Obviously there wouldn’t be trail, you’d have it in packs or bags, but like, metaphorically.)
Also my freezer is nowhere near big enough for even a small deer.
That’d save me money though, and it’d be an experience, but honestly, it’s just easier for me to grow weed, sell some, then use that cash to buy game from the butcher’s.
I could look into joining a hunting group, but I live in the city and most hunting groups are in the towns outside the city, and you can’t join them unless you live in the same municipality.
A car would be great. If I manage to buy myself a station wagon and a chest freezer, I’ll reconsider the hunting bit.
Machinist@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Got me. Totally made that assumption. I now live within an hour of downtown of a large metropolitan area, there’s even bus service here. However, even here, life without a vehicle would be full of hardship.
I’m used to only the extremely poor not having a vehicle. I don’t know the percentage, but a large chunk of our homeless live in their vehicle and have jobs. Which sounds like pure hell.
Another assumption I made is game not being available unless you hunt it yourself. I’ve read about butchers in Europe selling game but I have no experience with it. The only wild meat you can purchase in a store is saltwater fish, pretty much everything else must be farmed. I understand, and agree, with the original intent. Market hunting was a terrible thing, effectively wiped out the buffalo for instance. It now needs to be brought back, and closely managed, for whitetail deer.
American Buffalo: In Search of a Lost Icon by Steven Rinella is a fascinating book. Rinella is one of the few modern hunters that I respect. He also has a show, MeatEater, that’s pretty great. He’s a thinking man’s hunter.
Dasus@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
I mean I think I’d definitely have a car if I had the money, but it’s genuinely not necessary.
It’s not as car-free of a city as something like London, (like most Londoners prolly don’t own cars, but an Oyster card?), but it’d make my life easier for sure.
There you go assuming again.
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Just joshing you. I’m like only half extremely poor and the other half has some cash to burn. Insofar that I don’t have official income really and cay pay bills or deposit the cash into my account. If you follow my meaning.
It’s not that bad honestly, if you’re single at least. I can’t easily fit all my shopping for several days in my backpack. If I had a family, no way, but single, easy.
Also it’s often quicker getting around with a bike. Definitely to my closest store.
Sometimes I’ll cycle faster than a bus.
A car would be faster if there was no need to park, but there is.
Yeah hunter’s here often sell a lot of the game. It’s culled not for eating but to maintain population numbers, and it’d be stupid to waste it. Although fresh game is only available like half the year at most. But usually you can find frozen. Prices just get higher.
America is so big and the standard practiced is to free every fish, which seems kinda odd to me personally. I know it isn’t but I live within visual distance of the Baltic Sea and we Nordics are kinda known for fishing, so imagining non-fresh fish is kinda hard.
Now that I think of it, prolly why there’s a successful chain of sushi places along the coast, but none really inland, not more than 200km anyway.
Whitetail deer is much more closely managed here as well. Roe deer is sort of like, half vermim. Good eating though, but like so populous they don’t even count the felling permits for them, unlike most other species. You can just go and shoot them half a year given you’re not shooting a nursing mom or a calf (is that the right word for bambi? I know it in Finnish but)
I’ll check that out but somehow hunting buffalo on open plains with ranged weapons from horseback seems a tad unsportsmanlike.
Or do they like use the forests or am I confusing buffalo and bison again?