Comment on Baby dies after California mom leaves him in car to get lip filler on 101-degree day, police say
Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 day agoIt’s defo irresponsibility regardless, 2+ hours in a car no supervision is garbage parenting regardless, I’m just saying that it’s not like the parent intended the children was going to be in the heat, which in my opinion changes things drastically from someone making a poor choice with neglect or even an intent to kill, to someone who just made a really bad choice without the expectation anything bad will come out of it.
The parenting here was absolutely stupid either way, but one has a much worse intent and consequence than the other.
Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 day ago
I don't get why you're trying to paint it as not neglect. This is not someone who made a really bad choice, this is someone who decided it's okay for a 1 year old and a 2 year old to sit in a car for over 2 hours. Her leaving the AC on doesn't change the fact that it was negligent behavior, deliberate negligent behavior. Even if the AC had worked the entire time the situation for the children would've still been insufferable.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I’m not. I’m just saying that one imstance is significantly worse than the other. Just because I’m saying that doesn’t mean I agree with either instance, But out of the two available instances, this one is the preferred instance over intentionally putting a child in a vehicle for two and a half hours with no AC.
Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 day ago
You literally said this changes from neglect to "a really bad choice".
As for the other argument. If someone leaves their children home alone for a week do you think that action becomes significantly less worse if they stock up the fridge before leaving the children to fend for themselves? I would argue it doesn't matter because you're still neglecting them. The same way I don't think the AC matters because in both cases those children were still strapped into the car for over 2 hours without any supervision.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
please don’t pancake vs waffle me, especially considering that I have clarified to you what I meant by that post. Just because I explicitly state neglect in one, doesn’t mean the other isn’t neglectful. Neglect still falls under bad choices, however I would not call intent to kill just a “bad choice” which is was the point of the comment in the first place. Not debate over if its neglect or not.
As for your analogy, I don’t really think that is a safe analogy to apply to this situation. A child left without food and water for a week will always lead to death, a child being left alone for a few hours in a climate controlled area will not. It’s a false analogy.
instead I will respond with a fairer analogy. “Would it be considered neglect to leave a child unsupervised for 3 hours but leave food in the fridge” which I would still say is yes, but it’s weighed significantly less then someone who decided to go on vacation for a week leaving food in the fridge as was your first analogy.