Sorry. But if you plan to vote labour next election. You are not a red voter.
Comment on Jeremy Corbyn confirms new ‘socialist alternative’ before next election to fight Starmer
mannycalavera@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
I think this will fizzle out and go nowhere but: should this split the red vote who stands to gain? Tories (they’ve a long way to go to win back trust ), Lib Dems (something about Student Loans making them the only party in living history to have reneged on a manifesto promise), SNP (possibly in Scotland they could be back), Greens (they’re too right wing for Corbyn’s followers 😆)… That leaves: Reform. Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
I actually think a hung parliament under those circumstances. Great for confidence in the country.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
mannycalavera@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
I mean I love your confidence 😜, but parties like Labour and the Tories are too broad a churches to make that sweeping generalisation.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Labour plp and the leadership. Who is at the end of it who you vote for.
Is not in any way left wing anymore. The shit their doing is more blue then red.
The members may be broad. But the party no longer pay any attention to them.
abadidonque@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
If it starts splitting the vote I think it will force Labour to the left, which is where they should already be, to try and win people back.
Labour came into power on a promise of change. In most people’s eyes Reform are the only party who actually represent that at the moment though. The thing is, most normal people hate austerity and are finding it increasingly difficult to stomach the inequality that we have, so I think a socialist ‘insurgency’, like Corbyn’s new party will be a threat, not only to Labour but to Reform. Rightly so as well.
We’ll be able to measure their success in real-time by the level of hostility directed at them by billionaire-owned media
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
The British electorate have little taste for socialism. That’s why it’s Blair, Brown and Starmer who have been electable, while Kinnock and Corbyn haven’t.
abadidonque@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I think you’d be surprised - for example most people are in favour of nationalising water and railways. And there is the NHS of course, which is regarded as a national treasure! Right-wing media only goes after softer targets like the poor, disabled, women and minorities. I think if most people were left to decide without manipulation or coercion they would choose socialism (although they might call it something else), which they have done in the past.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Socialism is mutually exclusive to democracy however, and I’m not sure people would willingly give away their voting rights. The furthest Britain went was the post-war labour regime which was careful not to be “socialist”, but which nevertheless formed the NHS and BTC (with variable results).
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Except Starmer is considered a huge dissapointment and no better than a Tory at this point.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Tories: Leader dependent. Austerity fatigue. Watered down reform. In a fundraising rut.
Lib Dems: Memeable but no-one actually knows what they are about.
SNP: Losing ground to Starmer’s Labour anyway.
Greens: Still the impression of a single-issue party. A few bizarre policies too.
Reform: Have the man, have the PR machine, have the whipping-boy. Weakness in candidate vetting may limit seats contested.
1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
The Greens also have a terrible name, they’re a left wing party that don’t particularly care about environmental issues. Meanwhile the Lib Dems just stand for whatever the government doesn’t, which changes depending on who’s in power.