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its harder to hire new devs if engine is built in house, because no one outside the company understands how to use said engine unless its open for the public to use. thats the biggest drawback of in house engines (other than the increased develepment life cycle to develop one)

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lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Or your engine can do something that’s hard to do with Godot, Unity or Unreal

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- Maalus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Which is increasingly unlikely.
  
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EldenLord@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
This is only a problem if you want unsustainable growth/enshittification and to treat your devs like shit with bad pay and endless crunch time.

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- Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Kojima is an example of giving dev too much freedom that its basically further putting you into the red had he been strung along for the ride during metal gear solid 5’s development and the money spent optimizing fox engine. Theres a fine line between endless crunch time/micromanaging, and letting your devs do work.
  
  to put up a few examples, The upcoming Metroid prime 4 is an example when a company gives devs too much freedom. The original japanese studio didn’t know what hte fuck they were doing, so Nintendo pulled them off hte project, and gave their project to retro, who was working on the “Project harmony” game, which looked very bad, to the point that nintendo was fed up with the hands off approach and Kensuke Tanabe reinserted himself back as director to get prime’s development back into production getting Prime 4 out later this year.
  
  Part of the reason for the huge microsoft layoff that happened a few days ago is mainly because of microsofts more handsoff approach they gave their developers. they gave ninja theory 5 years to develop Hellblade 2 (which is a relatively long time). They gave Compulsion games 5+ years to develop South of midnight. neither game remotely probably paid of their development cost, in juxtaposition to a studio like Obsidian, who has in the same time frame, released 5 different games, some arguably more expansive than the previous 2 studios games, due to being well managed.
  
  and I’m not really pointing fingers here, but keep in mind, its not solely due to unsustainable growth/enshittification and treating devs like shit and endless crunch time causing this problem. It’s mainly lack of better people/resource management because there are countless numbers of studios who get significantly more time than they should on a project with not much to show for it.
  
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Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Is it though? I mean big companies most probably tweak whatever engine they use too, and the whole game is closed source, so company specific stuff is obiqutous to say the least.

Good points otherwise IMO.

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- Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  yes, but tweaking whatever engine they have, still uses a lot of the underlying engines code, which more freemarket devs will use. There’s a huge reason why a lot of the companies who build engines in house are in japan, because labor laws in japan makes it so developer retention is usually very high.
  
  Kojima and fox engine is an example of a well designed and optimized engine, but konami didn’t like it because of how much millions kojima spent developing both it and MGS5 hence the bad blood between them
  
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