“Opiods are fun. God forbid you enjoy some drugs line [sic] OxyContin 🙄”
It’s not really nice to call an addiction “fun”. Especially if you were to ask an addict about that.
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LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 2 years agoGambling is fun. God forbid you enjoy games line MtG 🙄
Carighan@lemmy.world 2 years ago
SCB@lemmy.world 2 years ago
The only people who are against drugs are people who’ve never done drugs and people who were really bad at doing drugs
LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 2 years ago
I love me the occasional line of k of coke. Opioids aren’t really my thing though 🤷♂️
BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 2 years ago
Sucker plays game for 80 dollars and demands to pay more
Pheonixdown@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Whales subsidize the cost of the game for everyone else. If there weren’t whales, the cost goes up for everyone or the product diminishes. Reality isn’t a magical realm where the company will not use ROI and net profit to determine what to make or how to price things, it’s all interrelated and you don’t get to hold everything else constant when asking for something to change.
brsrklf@jlai.lu 2 years ago
That doesn’t make any of this okay.
I’ve spent €45 for a Mario game yesterday. Last I’ve checked that game costs roughly the same for everyone (except understandable variations in regional pricing). Not €45 once for me and $2,000 per week for some guy with an addiction problem.
Yet that game was made, and thousands more that didn’t rely on gacha, lootboxes or whatever.
Pheonixdown@lemm.ee 2 years ago
People with a gambling addiction will find an outlet for it unless they get help controlling it, just like people with any addiction. Addiction is treated on an individual basis, not by banning an activity that the vast majority of the population can partake in with self-control.
We don’t have tons of public numbers to be able to discuss the initial development, licensing, marketing, support and ongoing development, distribution and overhead costs vs initial costs, expansion and MTX income of games at a large scale. But you can be sure the companies that make the games have those numbers, and they’re used for pricing and budgeting of future development. And that’s before we open the can of worms that is discussing how much profit is ethical.
Maybe they could make less money, maybe they could not make certain features, but where does the ethical line fall when it comes to predatory features and marketing? Who needs protection? From who? How do you implement it without infringing the rights of others? Is it ok to let them gamble if there’s a deterministic worst-case scenario? What if there’s a limit on how much they can spend? What if purchases are purely only deterministic, but they’re limited time exclusives that will never return? What about if you can earn them by playing or pay extra to just get them up front or faster? What about if they carve that feature out of the main product and sell it as an additional cost? These are all predatory in some way, but we don’t need to ban them all when a person can make their own value judgments and interact with games in a way that brings them enjoyment. Otherwise, it’s a slippery slope to asking why we even let people “waste” money on entertainment.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 years ago
you do realize you’re just saying that the predatory business has to be predatory otherwise they couldn’t operate their predatory business, right? It’s like a sheep defending wolves because if they didn’t eat sheep they wouldn’t be able to continue eating sheep.
Carighan@lemmy.world 2 years ago
No, whales subsidize the cost of a yacht for the CEO. The games could be paid just from the money you pay for them, if the companies weren’t continuously being siphoned off the top by C-suites and shareholders.