Comment on Anon likes trains

chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Fleur_@aussie.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yeah no country has ever built a high speed passenger rail network interconnecting cities spread throughout an area comparable to the usa. And it’s absurd to think that it could be done in under 20 years and receive massive popular support and have universally recognised benefits. Guys the cost is too high for the biggest economy on earth and the distance is so far that they could never build a railway across it especially not more than 100 years ago.

  (Well to be fair the Chinese did also build the railways across the US so maybe they do have something America doesn’t)

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  • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Slave labor.

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    • Fleur_@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Man if only the US and a massive incarcerated population with which they could use to forcibly work on a rail project, then it would be possible. If only.

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      • Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Woosh

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  • Soleos@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    This comment really needs a /sarcasm tag

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    • Fleur_@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’m sorry are you being serious? Please add /srs if you are to your comment. I don’t know what to think unless explicitly told because I’ve never used my brain before.

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      • Soleos@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I am serious. I read your comment twice wondering if you were being serious. Even with your comment at the end, I imagine a lot of people would read your comment straight, since most people don’t know much about Chinese HSR.

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  • elucubra@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The ideal is a mix, planes for the long haul, trains for short haul.

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• Allero@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  As someone from Russia, we have even larger territory, and going by rail is almost twice as cheap as by plane.

  High speed rail from Saint Petersburg to Moscow will cost you ~$45, going by plane will set you back ~$75 on the cheapest flight with hand luggage only.

  Same story with long distance trips - I plan on going for a 1000km trip in July, and train ticket costed me the same $45, while cheapest plane tickets go around $100. It’s also a night train with beds and all, so I have one night accommodation for free while on my way. Depart - have a nice sleep - be on your destination.

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• doylio@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Something like 30% of the US lives in the strip between Washington DC and Boston. It’s absolutely achievable for the richest country on Earth to provide high speed rail in that section.

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  • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    There’s already a lot of passenger rail options in that part of the country. I’ve used it, and it works great.

    This post is specifically about using it in place of airlines, which is used for longer-distance travel.

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    • doylio@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      If you want to use it in place of airlines, you need high-speed rail. Something that the US has basically none of

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      • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Which goes back to the issue of the difficulty of building high-speed rail across long distances.

        Higj-speed rail can’t be built at grade like freight rail. You can’t risk a cow getting through a fence or a crossing signal failure leading to a high-speed train collision.

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