Even if that particular picture was AI (I don’t think it is), there is nothing surprising or exaggerated going on here. More like it’s a rare thing. That’s totally within the capabilities of a fishing spider.
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bottleofchips@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
This is AI right?
Right?!
…it is though - the ripples make no sense, nor does the ant-spider in size or shape.
remon@ani.social 3 weeks ago
bottleofchips@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Yeah I’ve looked a bit harder and I see the spider shape a bit better now (from underneath), the slight motion blur in places would suggest not AI but I’m not totally convinced. From a quick search these spiders aren’t that big so that must be a very baby turtle, and I don’t know what’s going on around the mouth but it doesn’t look right, nor does the interference pattern of the ripples.
Agreeing with me would make a lot of people a lot more comfortable 😅
andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The sizes make sense - the turtle is on the smaller end and likely a juvenile, but both seem appropriately sized - the spiders can grow that big, especially if female.
I found this in a group for spider enthusiasts - these are the kinds of geeks that will look at a spider leg and get it down to class. AI is not good at generating invertebrate species specific traits yet. While this is pretty spectacular - not a daily event - these are both species that can be found in the same area, and these spiders will attack vertebrate pray.
remon@ani.social 3 weeks ago
the spiders can grow that big, especially if female.
I tried to click the link, but after having to identify motorcyles and busses 5 times in a row … I have up. Maybe I’m a bot.
Good thing I have an actual book!
blackbrook@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
It’s not a spider preying on a vertebrate that is hard to believe, it is the lifting. Even ignoring the physics of the situation, I don’t think fishing spiders hunt that way.
People act like they’ve forgotten that there are other ways than AI to fake an.
bottleofchips@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
TIL! Appreciate the somewhat scary education.
remon@ani.social 3 weeks ago
From a quick search these spiders aren’t that big
25-28mm body lenght is quite a considerable size. I think a cousin of these is often dubbed the “UK’s largest spider”, even though it technically isn’t. But they are up there. Yes, the US has tarantulas, giant house spiders and some larger wolf spiders, but Dolomedes is up there.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
“body length” is quite a poor way to communicate the size of a spider, you really want legspan.
bottleofchips@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I was meaning in relation to the average turtle but I take your point and appreciate the info. What’s the book out of interest?
MightBeAlpharius@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Unfortunately, no… I’ve seen one of those things, and they’re honestly kind of scary to stumble across in the wild. They’re huge, and they can swim.
I do agree that this picture looks weird, but I think it’s just a weird picture. The spider is hanging backwards, with his belly facing upwards (that little nubbin at the back of the abdomen usually angles down), but the way that he’s lifting his head to bite the turtle makes it look like his body is facing the other way. As for the ripples, it looks like he’s lifted the turtle high enough that we’re getting a shot of them without the water directly below them. The ripples look like they’re probably relatively calm water 5-10ft behind the spider, which is why they don’t match up with the action in the photo.
andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is not AI.