Comment on What do you think the solution to selling progressive politics to young men is ?

daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• BussyCat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  People regularly vote against their own interests

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  • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    And the best way to vote against your interest is vote just by following propaganda instead of thinking by themselves what they should do.

    Thinking on “how to sell” instead of “what do they need from us” is setting a path for people not thinking and just following propaganda, which makes them more susceptible for falling into other parties propaganda.

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    • BussyCat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      That’s why it’s important to be able to convey your message so people know what you are trying to accomplish with the 2000 page bill

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      • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        And what if what you try to accomplish or the way you try to do it is not the way they want it done?

        A common problem with the left movements these days is that they put more effort in convincing that in listening, because everyone who becomes politically active automatically thinks they know better than everyone else.

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• blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Ok.

  Have fun losing.

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  • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Wining is not sitting in a particular chair. Much less having some asshole that doesn’t care about you sitting on a chair because they convince you to vote them.

    Wining is having a society worth living in.

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    • blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      1. Erect such high standards of moral purity that you cannot possibly win elections.
      2. Lose elections.
      3. Complain about how those in power never make anything better.
      4. Maintain your sense of moral superiority, since if you never have power, you can never fuck up.

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      • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        1. Win elections without caring how you win.
        2. Elected representatives do nothing for you , because they only care for wining and they don’t even know how to improve people’s lives.
        3. Proceed lo lose elections to the worst opposition candidates because wining without substance left people out of any hope for the electoral system.

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