Yep. One of my friends works in sales and has worked from home for 3 1/2 of her 4 years with her current company. She’s in the top 10 performers out of 250-ish people in her division and her company is going to lose her if they stick to the demand that people return to the office. She’s waiting to see what happens, but she’s already had recruiters put out feelers once the tentative plan got out, and there are other top performers ready to jump ship too.
Comment on The reason CEOs want workers to Return To Office is because they want you to quit
yote_zip@pawb.social 8 months ago
The main thing I don’t get is that the top talent at your company are the ones that can easily find another job instead of putting up with your BS. The people that aren’t competent enough to leave on a whim are the ones you’re going to be keeping.
frickineh@lemmy.world 8 months ago
SCB@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Buddy of mine straight up laughed at his boss when they told him to return to office, and strangely it has never come up again.
When you know the value you bring, it’s hard to muscle you around.
jonne@infosec.pub 8 months ago
They don’t see workers as people, they’re a commodity like everything else.
EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Better yet if the workers unionized they could end up with a strike or no workers at all.
Arbiter@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Because CEOs are dumb
just_change_it@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I don’t think being fickle and being competent are necessarily linked.
Some of the best workers i’ve met over the years are making way less than some of the worst workers i’ve met, just because the ones who could talk the talk and play the bullshit made way more money and swap jobs way more often.
The highest paid company hoppers are undoubtably the first ones to go, that doesn’t mean they are the most important, talented people though.
Windex007@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If bad people are aware that they’re bad, they’re strongly incentivized to not risk their livelihoods by voluntarily ending their employment.
If people are clinging to a job tightly even as working condition deteriorates, it’s an indicator that they don’t think they’ll fare well on the job market.
The disconnect has more to do with perception of their own value. Good people who underestimate themselves awill be inclined to stay. Bad people who know they’re bad will be more inclined to stay.
Bad people who think they’re good, and good people who know they’re good will be the most likely to leave.
So, the strategy of intentionally tanking your conditions to prune bad people actually only successfully prunes bad people who think they’re good.
On the other hand, you loose good people who know they’re good, entrenches the bad people who know they’re bad, and demoralized the shit out of good people who don’t realize they’re good.
flakpanzer@lemmy.world 8 months ago
How are “bad people who think they are good” likely to leave, wouldn’t they find it hard to switch jobs because they are bad? that is, they thought they could easily switch jobs, but find out in interviews that it’s not easy, thus they are forced to stay?
Windex007@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They just quit, as a result of some offense, thinking they’ll pick up a new better job in no time.
tburkhol@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah, but you’re thinking about when the company picks people to fire. Forcing people back to the office decreases worker satisfaction across the board, and workers will respond individually. I’d argue that those highest paid will be most willing to suffer the inconvenience of commuting, regardless of their talent, so the “make working here annoying” plan will tend to retain higher paid employees while losing lower paid people through attrition. Likewise, workers are more likely to tolerate the annoyances if they don’t have any other options. Good people can more easily job-hop, so this strategy is also likely to retain the lower-performing employees while the top performers go elsewhere, not considering pay rate. Total labor costs will decline, because there’s fewer people working, but it’s not an efficient selection process.
Long story short: pissing on your employees results in a smaller, lower quality workforce.
SCB@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m not sure this is accurate. Most of the highly paid people I know (myself included), feel quite empowered by the current job market and can basically pick jobs at their leisure.
MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Quiting when management makes a “fuck you” policy isn’t fickleness, it’s common sense, for those who can.
Job mobility and talent are strongly measurably connected.
“Fuck you” policies lose top talent.
It’s not an interesting discussion. Grab your popcorn and wait for the “find out” phase to come around.
And if you own stock, focus on mid-cap for awhile, beacuse the large-cap players are doubling down on “fuck around”.