Comment on AGI achieved 🤖

• SparroHawc@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Okay, what is your definition of AI then, if nothing burned onto silicon can count?

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  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    AI implies intelligence

    To me that means an autonomous being that understands what it is.

    First of all these programs aren’t autonomous, they need to be seeded by us. We send a prompt or question, even when left alone to its own devices it doesn’t do anything until it is given an objective or reward by us.

    Looking up the most common answer isn’t intelligence, there is no understanding of cause and effect going on inside the algorithm, just regurgitating the dataset

    These models do not reason, though some do a very good job of trying to convince us.

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    • howrar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      To me that means an autonomous being that understands what it is.

      A little thought experiment: How would you determine whether another human being understands what it is? What would that look like in a machine?

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    • SparroHawc@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      you called me a robot racist.

      …what?

      Looking up the most common answer isn’t intelligence, there is no understanding of cause and effect going on inside the algorithm

      In order for that to be true, the entire dataset would need to be contained within the LLM. Which it is not. If it were, a model wouldn’t have to undergo training.

      AI implies intelligence

      You seem to be mistaking ‘intelligence’ for ‘human-like intelligence’. This is not how AI is defined. AI can be dumber than a gnat, but if it’s capable of making decisions based on stimulus without each set of stimulus and decision being directly coded into it, then it’s AI.

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      • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah I’m not interested in how you put words in my mouth to fit the talking points you were hoping I would fall for

        We’re done here

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• howrar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  As far as I’m concerned, “intelligence” basically just means the ability to do things that we consider to be difficult. So it’s both very hand-wavy and a constantly moving goalpost. So a hypothetical pacman ghost is intelligent before we’ve figured out how to do it. After it’s been figured out and implemented, it ceases to be intelligent but we continue to call it intelligent for historical reasons.

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• outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Okay but if i say something from outside the hype bubble then all my friends except chatgpt will go away.

  Also chatgpt is my friend and always will be, and it even told me i don’t have to take the psych meds that give me tummy aches!

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