there is always someone who thinks the ideal speed limit is 10 mph faster than whatever the speed of traffic is in the left lane.
No, I very specifically called out people who want to drive faster than what the speed traffic in the passing lane. How you think that implies going slower than the middle lane is beyond me.
dmention7@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Why is this passive aggressive “hurr durr found the left lane camper” comment on every literally post about left lane tailgaters?
Have you literally never driven in any Metropolitan area ever? I see it daily… lines 10+ cars deep of traffic maybe a single carlength apart, all doing 85 in the left lane, constantly passing middle lane traffic, as if that’s somehow going to make the 1/2 mile of traffic ahead of them go faster.
The number of aggressive tailgaters I see during my commute easily outweighs the left lane campers by 10:1
BassTurd@lemmy.world 3 days ago
If you are in the left lane, and aren’t actively passing someone, you are in the wrong and in most highways, breaking the law. Left lane campers are the reason people have to pass on the right dangerously, and if they did get to the right like they should and drive predictably, then it wouldn’t cause a cluster in the right lane traffic, because it is the expectation.
dmention7@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I get that, but these comments strongly imply two things that are generally false: -The main that reason tailgating happens is because someone is camping in the left lane, and -Tailgating is an appropriate response to someone camping in the left lane.
Nobody, literally nobody, ever defends left lane campers, but for some reason the immediate reaction to calling out tailgaters for their dangerous driving is to strawman the caller-outer as a left lane camper.
BassTurd@lemmy.world 3 days ago
That’s fair. I agree, tailgating is inexcusable. Both left lane campers and tailgaters suck, tailgating adds another level of danger, so they are worse for sure.
Unfortunately, I have family members that defend left lane driving. The dog shit argument is that if a deer were to jump in the road, there would be more time to react from the left. The false implication is that deer can’t come from the otherside, which I have a buddy who hit a deer that came from the median, so anecdotally, that’s bs. They both say that they get over when someone is coming, but that is also a shit statement, because I know that it’s not true 100% of the time, and the person coming up doesn’t know if they’re going to move, so they are put in a position of unpredictability.
xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 days ago
It’s like none of these people have taken road trips before. Depending on traffic density, you can be passing cars continuously for hours on a 4-lane highway (2 each direction). If there’s room to move to the right without slowing down, then yes, move over and cruise on the right lane. You don’t need to weave in and out of the passing lane every single car you pass.
pjwestin@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Yeah, I literally said, “10 mph faster than whatever the speed of traffic is in the left lane,” and still got a, “tHe PaSsInG LaNe iS FoR PAsSInG,” reply. Unless you validate the idea that the left lane allows you to drive as fast as you want under any circumstances, someone will accuse you of being a left-lane camper.
Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 2 days ago
-the main reason tailgating happens is people driving slow in the left lane. Not the only reason, but the main one.
-tailgating is NOT an appropriate response, but its not about who is in the right, when the one that can fix it for both parties is the one going slower and not passing. They have the power to get back over a lane (which they should be anyway if not passing), and immediately eliminate the issue, and everyone goes on their way. The tailgater can’t do that.
Also, I’m not sure what you experience is, but I see 50x the amount of people driving slow in the left lane than I see people tailgating.
8000gnat@reddthat.com 3 days ago
found the left lane camper
dmention7@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I asked for that >.<
8000gnat@reddthat.com 3 days ago
you set it up so well it seemed rude not to knock it down 😘
Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’m in one of the biggest Metropolitan areas in the US and I see entirely the opposite. 50x the amount of slow left lane drivers, going the same speed as the car to their right, blocking all cars going the appropriate speed, than tailgaters.
I agree the no space in the left lane is crazy though. More often than tailgaters, when I’m activley passing in the left lane, and a car from the right lane cuts me off and continues to go the same speed they were in the other lane, making me have to break on the freeway (which is another thing you should avoid whenever possible, and just let off on the gas. You’re a multi-ton chuck of metal going 60+ mph, you’ll slow down quick by just not accelerating).