my fam was in the resistance in wwii
they attacked railways stations, police stations, military bases, sabotaged military operations. Their targets were the authority who were the occupiers
they didn’t attack a village and burn children to death
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
little L liberals support every struggle for freedom except the current one.
I have no idea what people expect resistance to systematic displacement, imprisonment, discrimination, and murder to look like. If waving some flags and a few kindly worded speeches would have been enough then the 100 prior years was plenty of time for it to do that. At a certain point it becomes kill your attacker or die. Let’s not forget who the aggressors are.
Shit sucks, but there aren’t exactly innocents in an active colonisation and genocide program.
Seagoon_@aussie.zone 1 week ago
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
So firstly the invasion of France (assuming you mean French capital R resistance? not like the Warsaw uprising or whatever?) was not a program where the French nationals were split into disconnected areas while German nationals took their land. That sort of displacement was basically only done by German military and government in order to set up their occupation infrastructure.
Secondly the occupation of France was quite short, and during an active was so comparing the circumstances directly is a bit misleading. What did early Palestinian resistance look like?
Thirdly, and I think this is quite key, the French resistance did a shitload of absolutely horrifying stuff and discussions of the right to resist usually point this out: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_resist
The unfortunate reality is that resistance is ugly and chaotic, that the moral responsibility lies with oppressors to not oppress, and not turn their citizens into targets by involving them in oppression and carrying out acts in their name, and it is the responsibility of citizens to avoid claiming fruits of such programs such as land and resources.
badlucknocooki@lemmings.world 1 week ago
Belgian here. The resistance absolutely did attrocities
Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 week ago
they didn’t attack a village and burn children to death
Well Israel isn’t the resistance, Israel is the invader. So of course they’re going to attack villages and burn children to death.
sqgl@beehaw.org 1 week ago
I don’t think children are burned to death. That was a false claim by some old Israeli guy which was debunked.
However your approval of burning children is disturbing.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 week ago
aljazeera.com/…/child-among-at-least-10-killed-in…
IFuck off Zionist.
sqgl@beehaw.org 1 week ago
Are you talking about Hamas or Israel? Because Gaza had peace before Oct 7, although heavily policed border control because of suicide bombers coming out and rocket parts going in.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 week ago
And the Jews had peace in the Polish ghettos.
Fucking lying arse zios man.
sqgl@beehaw.org 1 week ago
Jews in Warsaw didn’t have international aid like Gazans did. Gazans did not not go hungry. They had peace except for retaliation when they fired rockets into Israel. What other disruptions of peace were there?
Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 week ago
That is so utterly fucking wrong, you disgusting Zionist.
Go look at any of the settler attacks on villages over the years where they frequently murder innocent families to steal their land.
Go look at all the cases of IDF abuses and indiscriminate killings.
Better yet, take the fucking UNs word if you don’t value mine:
www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
Deeply unserious.