Comment on How can you tell 23 subgenres of equally shitty growls and screams apart, but not see the most Metal basics?

UniversalBasicJustice@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Godric@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Based take, I’ll have to give them a listen

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• Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I had never heard over NSBM (nazi black metal) before and am actually kinda shocked, this exists… Fuck them.

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  • BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    A lot of first wave and early norwegian black metal bands were essentially proto-NSBM. Nazis have been a part of black metal for as long as it’s been around. For a long while black metal had a reputation for being full of fascists

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    • Nangijala@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It sucks because black metal has become one of my favourite subgenres in metal. I absolutely love how there is this reoccurring theme of worshipping nature in all her beauty and brutality. It is so sick.

      I stayed away from black metal entirely in my teens back in the 2000s because of all the scary rumors, but began listening to some of it during the pandemic. I was in this music exploration phase and black metal totally blew my mind. It is genuinely one of the most beautiful subgenres in metal.

      And yes, there are nazis and Satanists and so on in this subgenre, but black metal was also built by and for edgelords originally. The amount of snarls gatekeepers and contrarianism that went on at the birth of Norwegian black metal is so beyond cringe that when I finally sat down and read up on the history, I had several times where I felt secondhand embarrassment for everyone involved.

      The types of people who are attracted to the original philosophy of black metal tend to also be very immature types who seek shocking and repulsive behaviors to have people around them react. The fact that they, among many other things, attach themselves to nazisism is just a symptom of the edgelord mindset where everything is done to one-up and shock others. It is so pathetic.

      Meanwhile there are also many normal people who just want to make awesome art and black metal is a way for them to be killer fucking poets/musicians while looking and sounding like rotting corpses.

      I have a few artists and bands I listen to and love for their songs about nature or mental health. Psychonaut4, Lustre, Blackbraid, Advent Sorrow, Nargaroth, Thy Light and Agalloch are some of my go-to artists when I’m in my BM corner.

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  • nomorgrms@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Boy the whole modern music have a racial element to it. Remember when Elvis Presley for rich because he was white with a black voice?

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• Thelie@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Thanks for the recs, I was recently looking for queer metal and found some stuff but not nearly the nearly enough…

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• syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yeah, some genres have a large segment of people who struggle to fit in with the mainstream. I’d like to think that they pick up something about social liberalism vs traditionalism from that, but there’s apparently also a significant segment who want as strict traditions as the mainstream, they just want somewhat different traditions.

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