Nah cars are fucking awesome it’s just that they’ve taken over.
Comment on Me when I zoom past traffic on my e-scooter
Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 days ago
!fuckcars@lemmy.world
rabber@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 days ago
it’s just that they’ve taken over
Like a lot of movements, fuck cars is named partly to grab attention. If you take the name literally, you get a misleading impression. A more accurate name would be “fuck car culture” or “fuck car-centric design” or “fuck motornormativity”. But those aren’t nearly as catchy.
TheMightyCat@lemm.ee 4 days ago
If you take the name literally, you get a misleading impression.
I would say if you take the name “fuck cars” literally you get a way different impression.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 days ago
Does !dragonsfuckingcars exist here?
Godric@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Nah, cars certainly have their place, just a bike or scooter is way better downtown :)
jimmux@programming.dev 4 days ago
That’s supposed to be the consensus of the “fuck cars” movement, but the name certainly gives the impression of being completely against cars. When your eyes are opened to how car-centric infrastructure has taken over our societies it’s hard not to be a bit reactive.
Godric@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Unfortunately, every time I see something from that community it’s just vehicular hate-jerking
jimmux@programming.dev 4 days ago
It was more focused in the beginning, but I left them a while ago because it did become derailed as it grew. Reddit was never great at nuance.
postnataldrip@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Bingo, though the r*ddit fuckcars certainly took the name literally which has given the one here something of an inherited reputation to shake free of.
I love cars and would likely continue to own them even if I no longer needed them day to day. That’s vilified on the other site but seems fine here, as it should be.
PacMan@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Yeah, that’s why I blocked that subreddit. The car hate was too much. Not like I can load up my partner, my two kids in a car seats with two Labradors on a bike. Especially in a major city that can get a ton of snow in winter. Also we do long trips from Colorado to Upstate NY once or twice a year.
We do our part biking or walking when we can. Will be super excited when my little one can ride a bike
Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 days ago
But it didn’t? It would regularly get people who are into their project cars or whatever come in and people would be quite friendly. Because the vast majority of that subreddit understood that the point of the movement is about systemic change and car culture, not about individual cars.
Paddzr@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Yet the actual movement can be very extreme in their messaging.
I love bikes, I’ve spent my youth on them. But that place is just bunch of sad cunts circle jerking 80% of the time.
Its what antiwork And all these other type of places always ends up being… The most passionate drive out the by standers.
MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
Antiwork was founded by someone who genuinely wants to not have a job at all, and they got kicked out by a bunch of moderates who took over the community with milder messaging.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 days ago
Well, it’s a little more than just “bike or scooter is way better downtown”. It’s that car-centric infrastructure as a whole makes biking or walking dangerous and inconvenient, and public transport expensive and inconvenient. It’s that the sharp divide between “downtown” and “the suburbs” which means that a statement like @Godric@lemmy.world’s, which sort of implies “bikes are great downtown, but cars are better elsewhere” (even if godric didn’t intend that, it’s certainly a valid way to interpret their comment) is making an allowance for cars that things should be designed for them elsewhere, when actually trams and bikes worked great in small towns before we started designing everything for cars.
jimmux@programming.dev 4 days ago
Yeah, but fuckcars is also a venting space so I didn’t want to get into technicalities. There are urbanist communities that do a better job of presenting the bigger picture.