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• user224@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  1. SMS and classic calls are dying. Things moved to Discord, Instagram, Snapchat, or whatever else for the most part
  2. Burner SIM, or better yet, burner eSIM. Maybe VoIP would suffice.

  And the original SIM could still be used in some cheap older phone.

  Although it seems everything in the US is a plan, meaning monthly payments. But perhaps I haven’t looked far enough.

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You can get phones here for like £5, what kind of plan would that even be?

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    • user224@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well, probably my mistake calling it a plan, but it seems all of them are subscriptions at least. Even “pay as you go” cards I found have monthly payments.
      It seems the cheapest was T-Mobile PayGo, but that got sold to Ultra Mobile. I don’t know what they offer though because there’s an infinite captcha on their website for me. But from Google preview it seems they still offer the $3/month PayGo.

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• Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So my phone is still the same phone as when I had a flip phone in the 2000s?

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• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  … Or, you could swap out only the SIM card, have a new number, and the rest of the phone is literally exactly the same.

  Most kids these days use social media apps for messenging and general time wasting in class… all they’d have to do is update their phone number with the major apps they use before they come into school the next day… all the contacts are in the apps themselves, not the OS’s contact list.

  …

  Either way, you’re still missing the point that the kid’s entire question line is literally a non sequitur, a misdirect, a distraction via tangential discussion.

  You are falling into the trap of bothering to engage in the actual ship of Theseus ‘what actually constitutes the same phone’ argument that the teacher has.

  The teacher, and you, do not realize that that is irrelevant, and were this some kind of debate bro / debate club debate, you would both have fallen for a rhetorical trap, wasting time arguing over something not germaine to the actual topic.

  It doesn’t matter if the kid has millionaire parents and legitimately purchased and owned a brand new phone with a live phone plan every single day, and brought it to school.

  Or if the kid stole phones, borrowed someone elses phone and was caught with it.

  The rule is ‘no phones in class upon pain of confiscation’.

  …

  Whether or not it is literally or philosophically the same phone, or a legitimately owned phone, or that particular student’s legitimately owned phone has absolutely no relevance.

  … Its like how if you bring alcohol, drugs, or a gun to a school… whether or not they are your items doesn’t matter, whether or not its a single shot derringer or a full assault rifle doesn’t matter.

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• user224@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I hate to break it to you, but we’re talking about HS, in 2025. Most people don’t use phone numbers for m

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