Comment on Hamas, federation and legality

• imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Much unlike the Israeli defense ministers statement of “palestinians beasts are subhumans” which definitely doesn’t sound like Nazi propaganda oh wait

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  • Historical_General@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They even put the Palestinians in ghettos. Wonder what that harks back to?

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• trespass@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Again, you’re painting with a broad brush. Nazism and antisemitism are frequently associated but mutually exclusive.

  And one person’s terrorist is another person’s freedom fighter.

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  • yetAnotherUser@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, nationalism and anti-communism are also pillars of nazism. Wait…

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    • trespass@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      All I’m asking for is a bit of nuance beyond “communists are saying nazi things”. Being similar is not being the same. You’re implying that Palestinians are Nazis, which is… a tremendous stretch.

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      • Historical_General@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Also just wrong, since both Jewish Zionists and Nazis were inspired by European colonialism. (Important to note there are Christian Zionists out there, and the original British Upper Class Christian Zionists basically just wanted the Jews out of Europe).

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      • yetAnotherUser@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        “Communists are saying Nazi things”? I’m not sure where I talked about communists besides the opposition to it in Hamas.

        And no, I’m not implying Palestinians are Nazis - I’m responding to the claim that Hamas isn’t fascist just because there’s more to fascism than antisemitism. Yes, antisemitism does not imply fascism. But antisemitism combined with a few other factors does imply fascism. (And no, fascism does not imply antisemitism).

        And it’s certainly not a stretch to claim a subset of a group is fascist. Like this Palestinian on the left (who is also instrumentalized by Israeli fascists to claim all Palestinians are Nazis - which is obviously wrong, but this guy certainly was one):

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        Also, just a small definition: I use the terms Nazi and fascist interchangeably, there’s not much of a point here to argue semantics.

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    • Historical_General@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, that’s why Mossad funded them. If they were Islamist, they’d be easier to control like the Saudis and friends.

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      • yetAnotherUser@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Never said anything positive about Israel, did I? I responded to a comment saying just because Hamas is antisemitic doesn’t mean it’s fascist. While that’s true, Hamas fulfills more hallmarks of fascism than merely antisemitism.

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• zaph@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The problem is that Isreal is doing terrorist shit too and it has nothing to do with the fact that they’re Jewish.

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