Comment on Hamas, federation and legality

• Historical_General@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ll add that this conflict is not a religious conflict. Religion adds some heat but it is fundamentally about settler colonialism, theft of land, racism and apartheid.

  Arafat, their previous leader was literally a Christian, not Muslim. And Hamas, an Islamist organisation was literally funded by the Mossad against the PLO (Arafat’s organisation). What Israel faced is literally their own fault - it’s blowback like how the US got 911ed by the Saudis they funded.

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  • trespass@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fair point, I oversimplified a bit. Sounds a bit more of a nationalism issue?

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    • Historical_General@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Land is what’s at stake, when people are removed from their land or displaced, that constitutes genocide, keeping them under a seperate set of law while favouring Jews is apartheid (literally worse than South Africa, because the whites actually needed low wage workers while Israelis just carry on killing).

      All of that comes under settler-colonialism, but certainly nationalism is part of the domestic agenda.

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• CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Most of the anti Israel bs is basically just “jews bad” and therefore nazi. Also celebrating terrorism among other things.

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  • imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Much unlike the Israeli defense ministers statement of “palestinians beasts are subhumans” which definitely doesn’t sound like Nazi propaganda oh wait

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    • Historical_General@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They even put the Palestinians in ghettos. Wonder what that harks back to?

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  • trespass@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Again, you’re painting with a broad brush. Nazism and antisemitism are frequently associated but mutually exclusive.

    And one person’s terrorist is another person’s freedom fighter.

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    • yetAnotherUser@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, nationalism and anti-communism are also pillars of nazism. Wait…

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      • trespass@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        All I’m asking for is a bit of nuance beyond “communists are saying nazi things”. Being similar is not being the same. You’re implying that Palestinians are Nazis, which is… a tremendous stretch.

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      • Historical_General@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah, that’s why Mossad funded them. If they were Islamist, they’d be easier to control like the Saudis and friends.

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  • zaph@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The problem is that Isreal is doing terrorist shit too and it has nothing to do with the fact that they’re Jewish.

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