Comment on Hamas, federation and legality

CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

• trespass@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  While some of the comments from commies are too far, just because you disagree with how Israel treats Palestinians doesn’t make you a Nazi.

  You can approach this situation with more nuance than a choice between “Jews bad” or “Muslims bad”.

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  • Historical_General@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    I’ll add that this conflict is not a religious conflict. Religion adds some heat but it is fundamentally about settler colonialism, theft of land, racism and apartheid.

    Arafat, their previous leader was literally a Christian, not Muslim. And Hamas, an Islamist organisation was literally funded by the Mossad against the PLO (Arafat’s organisation). What Israel faced is literally their own fault - it’s blowback like how the US got 911ed by the Saudis they funded.

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    • trespass@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Fair point, I oversimplified a bit. Sounds a bit more of a nationalism issue?

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      • Historical_General@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Land is what’s at stake, when people are removed from their land or displaced, that constitutes genocide, keeping them under a seperate set of law while favouring Jews is apartheid (literally worse than South Africa, because the whites actually needed low wage workers while Israelis just carry on killing).

        All of that comes under settler-colonialism, but certainly nationalism is part of the domestic agenda.

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  • CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Most of the anti Israel bs is basically just “jews bad” and therefore nazi. Also celebrating terrorism among other things.

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    • imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Much unlike the Israeli defense ministers statement of “palestinians beasts are subhumans” which definitely doesn’t sound like Nazi propaganda oh wait

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      • Historical_General@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        They even put the Palestinians in ghettos. Wonder what that harks back to?

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    • trespass@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Again, you’re painting with a broad brush. Nazism and antisemitism are frequently associated but mutually exclusive.

      And one person’s terrorist is another person’s freedom fighter.

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      • yetAnotherUser@feddit.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Yeah, nationalism and anti-communism are also pillars of nazism. Wait…

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    • zaph@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      The problem is that Isreal is doing terrorist shit too and it has nothing to do with the fact that they’re Jewish.

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