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thefactremains@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

What if I told you the problems only materialize when people tell other people what, and what not to believe?

Pure belief and spirituality (when you remove the need for compliance and/or judgement of others) is critical for healthy evolution of humanity through personal growth.

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Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

What if I told you the problems only materialize when people tell other people what, and what not to believe?

I disagree. The problems materialise whenever a person enters the real world and their beliefs affect how they act.

For example, a religious doctor choosing not to administer birth control, or not to perform abortions. That’s a real-world problem caused by religious people’s own beliefs impacting how they personally choose to act, and having a negative effect on society at large.

Pure belief and spirituality is critical for healthy evolution of humanity through personal growth.

Was. If you said was critical, I would agree with you. But certainly not is. We have no use for woo-woo and belief in nonsensical claims today.

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- thefactremains@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Very valid point.
  
  Though I’m pretty sure the solution is not to tell people what not to believe.
  
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  - Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    
    the solution isn’t telling people what not to believe
    
    Absolutely correct. However, I think far too often in society we err too far on the side of respecting religion. As some examples:
    
    Religious institutions or individuals should not be permitted to discriminate on the basis of either religion or religious belief. A sexist teacher can’t choose to not teach women. A racist bus driver can’t say “no black people on my bus”. A religious doctor, or any doctor at a religiously-affiliated hospital, should not be allowed to refuse to provide certain procedures because of their religion.
    
    Religions should not receive special taxation status.
    
    Religious rituals like prayers should not be involved in any civil procedure like the opening of parliaments and city councils.
    
    The only time religion should ever be involved in actual Monday-to-Friday schools should be as part of dispassionate academic discussion of theology, not from the perspective of evangelising.
    
    Etc.
    
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