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• Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Thank you! There’s surprisingly an awful number of supporters here, I don’t know why…

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• wafflez@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t do gish gallops, so I’m just going to address this:

    PETA kills animals because unfortunately there are no better places for them.

    That is bullshit. There are no kill shelters all over the country. There’s one in my town. They didn’t even euthanize after they were overwhelmed when we had a huge storm that destroyed structures. They just found people who would foster while they could rehome as much as they could. PETA doesn’t do that.

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    • Sotuanduso@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Today I learned what a Gish Gallop is.

      British journalist Mehdi Hasan suggests using these three steps to beat the Gish gallop:

      1. Because there are too many falsehoods to address, it is wise to choose one as an example. Choose the weakest, dumbest, most ludicrous argument that your opponent has presented and tear this argument to shreds (also known as the weak point rebuttal).
      2. Do not budge from the issue. Don’t move on until you have decisively destroyed the nonsense and clearly made your point.
      3. Call it out: name the strategy. “This is a strategy called the ‘Gish Gallop’. Do not be fooled by the flood of nonsense you have just heard.”

      Nicely done.

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  • 1simpletailer@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Its also just totally a false equivalency. Lets entertain for a moment the fact that Peta is an imperfect organization that doesn’t always do the right thing. Okay and? The industry they protest exploits not just animals, but Children and Workers. Its carbon footprint is playing an instrumental role in destroying the biosphere. But sure, PETA is imperfect so I guess we’ll all just keep eating meat.

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• dx1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Do more research on that claim.

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  • Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    here’s one for starter

    here’s another one

    this one’s a bit dated, but still relevant

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    • dx1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes, start with the Wikipedia one that, that actually begins to examine it critically and points out that the campaign was spearheaded by an animal industry lobbying group…

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    • abraxas@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’d just stop now. I just realized who you’re commenting with, and the guy just had a long-ass pissy argument. When I slowed down to show him evidence, he kept changing topics and then ragequit when it didn’t work.

      Feel free to check my comment history (or his) for proof of this.

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      • ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Can also check my comment history I’m just going to try and ignore cv7 although I don’t know how effective that’s going be considering he’s on every god dam comment

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I love it when people say this without even suggesting where to do this research. Let me guess- Google it. Because that’s what I already did.

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    • dx1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There’s the approach I have to fact-check things, I don’t know what other approach people have honestly. Look up fact-checking, debunking etc. on it. I know there are dozens to hundreds of pages that fact-check the parroted “PETA euthanizes too many dogs” claim. I honestly can’t believe people are still bringing this one up, I don’t know how it could possibly be on me to start digging up sources for you.

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      • ZaroniPepperoni@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        “Just look it up until a fringe source from an unknown media group ““debunks”” it, despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary, then change your entire point of view from it” in other words: just google the opposite of what you said and go with that answer plz thx. Color me convinced! For the record: every fact check I looked up corroborated the obvious: PETA euthanizes pets at an obscene rate compared to even the most ruthless pounds in the us.

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