Comment on What are some FOSS programs that are objectively better than their proprietary counterparts?

• aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Are the jetbrains ides open source?

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  • swelter_spark@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They have open source versions that run on Linux. I’d say they’re better than VSCode.

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• Nibodhika@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I agree, there are very few really good IDEs and the majority of them are closed source. The only open source one I can think of off the top of my head is Kdevelop, and last time I tried it it was not great.

  That being said, I think the reason for that is that most FOSS projects are stuff someone started and maintained because they wanted an alternative with XYZ, and for IDEs a good chunk of people who could build excellent IDEs don’t even use one, so they don’t even start to work on it. The reason is that vim/emacs are so great it’s very hard to beat them, I think a good configured vim/emacs can beat anything the best IDEs can do, and while configuring vim/emacs to get to that level is difficult, it’s stile much more easy than building an IDE from scratch. So you’re left with a gap where beginners don’t have any tools because experts don’t need them.

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  • Enkimaru@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There is Eclipse … and I guess if you google around you will find quite a few IDEs … but VSCode, IntelliJ and Eclipse are the standards.

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  • anachrohack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I was a vim user for years and I disagree. At a certain point, vim with plugins cannot compare to visual studio or clion

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    • Nibodhika@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why? What can Visual studio or Clion do that vim can’t? Lots of what those two can do are easy to setup, but I can’t think of anything that vim can’t do (and can think quite a bunch that those two can’t)

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