Our current western culture is one of violent misandry.
Women are being released from almost all historical expectations and constraints, which is wonderful and good. This is actual progress in action, however lopsided and gender-supremacy-like it might be.
Meanwhile, men are still constrained by all the historical expectations set out for them, yet have been completely stripped of all benefits that have traditionally accrued with those expectations being met. And yet, we are still being violently nailed to the wall - invariably by women ignoring and/or outright demeaning us - when we fail to meet those expectations.
This massive asymmetry that men experience is what is creating subgroups of disaffected men. Because 1ncels don’t just leap out of the ground, fully formed – they are a direct response to the unintended consequences of women trying to eat their cake and to have it as well. Think about that next time women refuse to date down, or demand a “666 man”, or expect the man to pay on the first date, or any other archaic and gender-bigoted expectation.
Any man who has had the misfortune of finding out she didn’t actually want him to open up to her when she said “you never let me in!” understands this double-standard.
While I agree with you, I don’t think it’s fair to characterize all of society as misandrist based on that. There’s a significant number of things that you’re ignoring or are not privy to, where women are harmed by men. The patriarchy isn’t just this fantasy that feminists made up, it’s a real thing, and while not as powerful as it used to be it still harms women substantially.
I think it’s fairer to say that some parts of our culture are misandrist, some misogynist. And on the whole, women have it worse - but men also have it pretty bad.
rekabis@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Our current western culture is one of violent misandry.
Women are being released from almost all historical expectations and constraints, which is wonderful and good. This is actual progress in action, however lopsided and gender-supremacy-like it might be.
Meanwhile, men are still constrained by all the historical expectations set out for them, yet have been completely stripped of all benefits that have traditionally accrued with those expectations being met. And yet, we are still being violently nailed to the wall - invariably by women ignoring and/or outright demeaning us - when we fail to meet those expectations.
This massive asymmetry that men experience is what is creating subgroups of disaffected men. Because 1ncels don’t just leap out of the ground, fully formed – they are a direct response to the unintended consequences of women trying to eat their cake and to have it as well. Think about that next time women refuse to date down, or demand a “666 man”, or expect the man to pay on the first date, or any other archaic and gender-bigoted expectation.
CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Any man who has had the misfortune of finding out she didn’t actually want him to open up to her when she said “you never let me in!” understands this double-standard.
stevedice@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Go back to 4chan, incel.
Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
While I agree with you, I don’t think it’s fair to characterize all of society as misandrist based on that. There’s a significant number of things that you’re ignoring or are not privy to, where women are harmed by men. The patriarchy isn’t just this fantasy that feminists made up, it’s a real thing, and while not as powerful as it used to be it still harms women substantially.
I think it’s fairer to say that some parts of our culture are misandrist, some misogynist. And on the whole, women have it worse - but men also have it pretty bad.
Woht24@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Dropping fucking truths
bishbosh@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
They really aren’t though.
Woht24@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Radical 🤙