I would be worried the Union management isn’t corrupt though.
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SARGEx117@lemmy.world 8 months agoYou’re literally partially making sure you still get PAID when shit happens.
Very good point, and I honestly wonder how common that knowledge even is.
Then again, almost all anti-union propaganda hinges on people not knowing enough about the subject to call it out. As with most propaganda.
Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 8 months ago
TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 8 months ago
That’s something to worry about in every arena that involves money, not just unions. It’s just a fact of life that there are crooks and liars in the world.
Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s true. I think that’s just what I’m trying to say. Unions are best for most jobs but are not great for all jobs. And they do have s lot of problems younger people might not realize. Some unions are bad for stiffing younger members giving work to older more experienced guys while younger guys pay the same dues. They can become the same shit different structure. So I’m not saying don’t unionize. But I am saying make sure the union serves its members and does not become just another thing that fucks you.
In the end I prefer things like cooperatives over unions but we’re a long way from there. But they also suffer the same old boys club. In the end I think we overlook that we’re all just evil corporation’s without power and money. In the end we should look at the culture itself because there’s a reason corruption is king
Spuddaccino@reddthat.com 8 months ago
From the other side: I’m pro-union, but at my workplace I’m management.
One of the guys on my crew is terrible at his job. Just awful. Everyone hates working with him, he doesn’t get anything done on time, he’s either stupid or willfully ignorant, the list goes on and on.
The union, however, has negotiated that I can’t action for productivity. It literally doesn’t matter how badly he does his job, as long as he’s in his spot and something is happening, I can’t do anything. On top of that, this guy has seniority over most of the other guys on the crew, so I can’t even give him less hours without cutting the people who actually get shit done.
It’s incredibly frustrating, and the only thing I can do is watch his attendance like a hawk in the hopes I can get rid of him for being late one too many times.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 months ago
In every arena that involves authority.
phobiac@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No concerns about the company management being corrupt and working against your interests, though?
intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 months ago
The company is openly for its own interest. Corrupting the company would mean using the company for something other than seeking profit. A union, which is on your side, is the thing where corruption makes it go from serving you to not serving you. A company wasn’t serving you in the first place.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
so get involved and make sure it isn’t? tell people if you think the management is corrupt so they can be tossed out on their ass.
Gyrolemmy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I personally never realized that striking employees get paid for time they were on strike. Kinda seems weird if you ask me. Like they didnt do any work and what if the company had someone else fill their spot. Seems like that wouldn’t really make sense.
Perhaps if the union end of strike terms were to fill backpay then it makes sense.
SARGEx117@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Hmm. It’s been a thing for every union I’ve been a part of, but it makes sense it wouldn’t be ALL of them that do it. I’m sure some just simply aren’t large enough to do it like that.