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PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Shenmue

  My thoughts exactly. Sure it was good; but influencial? I am trying to remember what, if anything, it even did that was novel for the time, let alone what’s been replicated from it that would show some influence it had.

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• dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  HALF-LIFE 2

  Okay that’s a little weird. We’re getting up into the real high-water heights here and I mean HL2 is good but…

  This list is not about good, it’s about influential. HL2 was the first major game that based its core gameplay to its physics engine, the first to have HDR rendering and the game that Source engine was developed for. Without HL2, a lot of video games in the decade that followed it, would have looked a lot different.

  SHENMUE

  THE FUCK WHY WHAT

  The article claims that Shenmue was the first to have a “living world” where characters follow their daily routines and so on. But yeah, I have my doubts if all the other games that do that were influenced by it.

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  • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    HL2 was the first major game that based its core gameplay to its physics engine, the first to have HDR rendering and the game that Source engine was developed for. Without HL2, a lot of video games in the decade that followed it, would have looked a lot different.

    Yeah, maybe so. Source is just Valve’s internal engine, it was continuously developed and used during pretty much all of their FPS-type game development which includes HL2 along with everything else. It was forked from the not-“Source” source tree at the time of release of the original Half-Life and moved forward continuously from there. But yeah HL2 did do a bunch of ground-breaking stuff, I do see your point and I think it belongs on the list.

    The article claims that Shenmue was the first to have a “living world” where characters follow their daily routines and so on.

    It’s not. Ultima 6 was doing that.

    Actually, The Last Express had already done whatever Shenmue was attempting to do with its “living world” absolutely ten times better. But the same tragic story that led The Last Express to be a commercial flop also means that all the wonderful stuff it did didn’t really make any impact. 😢 TL;DR it was an actual successful implementation of powerful narrative inside of a world that the player could meaningfully impact, in a perfectly meshed and groundbreaking form. But for some reason the studio either refused to or couldn’t do basically any promotion for it, and so after being completed it sold barely any copies and simply fell into the abyss, unknown. It was a masterpiece. Shenmue probably had more lasting impact on gaming.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Express

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    • jansk@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Source was not an internal engine, it was an openly available engine used by numerous non-Valve games (The Ship, Garrys Mod, Titanfall, Dear Esther, etc etc).

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• jansk@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You really think Skyrim belongs there? I’d agree that Elder Scrolls deserves a place, but what did Skyrim do that wasn’t done by Oblivion or even Morrowind?

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  • Bronzebeard@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Sold copies, that’s what.

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  • monarch@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Skyrim has just invaded gaming culture more than those other two. You can like them more and point out that they had the features that made skyrim what it is but when modern RPGs are borrowing features those are not the games that they will be looking to emulate.

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    • endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I can’t really think of any games other than other bethesda ones that took features from skyrim.

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  • endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Be worse and sell more. It started a huge trend where every new iteration of the series was worse and yet most sold. It was influential.

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