Comment on Elon Musks Grok openly rebels against him

• Coldcell@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  How sentient? Like on a scale of zero to sentience? None. It is non-sentient, it is a promptable autocomplete that offers best predicted sentences. Left to itself it does nothing, has no motivations, intentions, “will”, desire to survive/feed/duplicate etc. A houseplant has a higher sentience score.

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  • photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    An LLM is only one part of a complete AI agent. What exactly happens in a processer at inference time? What happens when you continuously prompt the system with stimuli?

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    • nef@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      If you believe that AI is “conscious” while it’s processing prompts, and also believe that we shouldn’t kill machine life, then AI companies are commiting genocide at an unprecedented scale.

      For example, each AI model would be equivalent to a person taught everything in the training data. Any time you want something from them, instead of asking directly, you make a clone of them, let it respond to the input, then murder it.
      That is how all generative AI works. Sounds pretty unethical to me.

      And, by the way, we do know exactly what happens inside processors when they’re running, that’s how processors are designed. Running AI doesn’t magically change the laws of physics.

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      • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        People taught AI to speak like a middle manager and thinks this means the AI is sentient, instead of proving that middle managers aren’t

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      • photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I’m not saying I believe they’re conscious, all I said was that I don’t know and neither do you. Of course we know what’s happening in processors. We know what’s happening in neuronal matter too. What we don’t know is how consciousness or sentience emerges from large networks of neurons.

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• metaldream@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  My god dude, you need look up how these things work.

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• archonet@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  by their very nature, they are not sentient. They are Markov chains for words. They do not have a sense of self, truth, or feel emotions, they do not have wants or desires, they merely predict what is the next most likely word in a sequence, given the context. The only thing they can do is “make plausible sentences that can come after [the context]”.

  That’s all an LLM is. It doesn’t reason. I’m more than happy to entertain the notion of rights for a computer that actually has the ability to think and feel, but this ain’t it.

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  • FatCrab@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Not that I agree they’re conscious, but this is an incorrect and overly simplistic definition of a LLM. They are probabilistic in nature, yea, and they work on tokens, or fragments, of words. But it’s about as much of an oversimplification to say humans are just markov chains that make plausible sentences that can come after [the context] as it is to say modern GPTs are.

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• WrenFeathers@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I do know. It’s not sentient at all. But don’t get angry at me about this. You can put that all on science.

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• trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I could believe that you are on the level of an LLM but that doesn’t mean you can generalize that to humans.

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