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Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Your comparison of people who rely on United Healthcare being mistaken for their CEO is absurd.

People can sell their Tesla’s, but Americans can seldom choose their insurance provider. Insurance is also how people stay alive, and a Tesla is simply a tool for getting from point a to point b, of which there are literally thousands of alternatives.

Tesla’s cheapest model (the model 3) starts at over $42,000 for the bare-bones, base model. That’s an extremely expensive sedan. You can sell that used and select from a huge selection of excellent NEW cars.

So yeah, fuck Tesla’s. Fuck their maker, and fuck their owners.

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helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
The problem with selling a Tesla is the greatly reduced sell value, who wants to buy a car with such a shit reputation they’re getting set on fire? Either the crazy Musk/trump idolizers or someone who lives under a rocks and will gladly a buy an extremely expensive sedan for cheap. Unfortunately, unless their dumb enough to put a giant maga sticker on the car (but then how do you know someone isn’t vandalizing cars with stickers like that to watch other people harass the owner), there’s no way to know anything about the person driving it. They could be renting it because their’s broke down and that’s the car that was available, we simply do not know.

Tesla owners are basically being forced into loosing around 20k. Even selling it, they still have to pay off the rest of their loan. If they still have 30k to pay, and only sell for 20k, there’s still 10k on loan. then another 5k for a down payment on a new car. Do you have 15-20k sitting in the bank your able to spend and loose 20k in assets without it being a financially stupid idea? Not many do.

Only if the loan is payed off the loan or almost done could it make some since to sell the car at a 50% loss. It sucks, and should be done to get rid of the Tesla, but I still feel bad for the folks who wanted the EV for the environment/at home charging/no gas and got sold into the Tesla marketing.

And okay, my UHC example is easily broke on an individual level, but companies still choose the provider. Do we go set fire to random businesses that picked United Healthcare? That’s not gonna hurt UHC, it’ll just hurt the families of the workers who no longer have a job.

If you want a different example, insert Nestle or something, same idea applies.

And I’m going to emphasize this again, nothing musk does is justification for risking anyone’s life with burning cars.

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- Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  The problem with selling a Tesla is the greatly reduced sell value.
  
  That’s not the problem. That’s the objective. Reduce the attractiveness of new Teslas. Reduce Tesla revenue, reduce Tesla share price, reduce Musk’s power.
  
  nothing musk does is justification for risking anyone’s life with burning cars.
  
  Are there incidents of Tesla owners being physically harmed (Ignoring autopilot problems and manufacturing faults)?
  
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  - helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Its an objective that is causing a major fucking problem for the people who want to sell their tesla but can’t without going bankrupt. You’re hurting thousands (hundred of thousands?) of people to stick it to one man.
    
    People setting fire to a car forces fire fighters to have to put that out. That’s a waste of resources, possibly delaying other calls, and its a fucking fire. It doesn’t take much for the situation to become dangerous
    
    Not hard to imagine the risk of something exploding or “sorry we couldn’t get to your hose 5 minutes earlier to save your baby because were scrambling around town dealing with arson”.
    
    It’s not worth the risk.
    
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    Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    You’re hurting thousands (hundred of thousands?) of people to stick it to one man.
    
    That one man is now hurting tens of thousands of people with his (unelected) government actions.
    
    I’m not hurting anyone. However this online chatter is hurting the Tesla share price so I’ll keep it up.
    
    People setting fire to a car forces fire fighters to have to put that out. That’s a waste of resources, possibly delaying other calls, and its a fucking fire. It doesn’t take much for the situation to become dangerous.
    
    Yeah. I think burning is too extreme, but the French are experts in this form of protest
    
    I’m more an advocate of non permanent damage (notes on windshields) and writing on the Internet. IMHO slashing tyres achieves the same extreme impact with less environmental damage or possibility of injury.
    
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