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• punksnotdead@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Less safe? What features do you need that, say, a 2015 model can’t have?

  An ICE that is still on the go is more environmentally friendly than manufacturing an EV from new… A new EV versus a new ICE, yeah fair enough. But replacing a perfectly functional ICE vehicle with a new EV for environmental reasons is just marketing, consumerism, and trend following.

  To stop bullshit spying of every part of a vehicle, to stop bullshit waste of perfectly functional vehicles, buy used.

  Obviously, fuck cars, use public transport if you can, but that’s unfeasible for most, so buy used!

  Especially if you can get your hands on something like a 1.0l with a giant turbo strapped to the side. They’re pretty common in Europe, I don’t know about America.

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  • FlexibleToast@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    What features do you need that, say, a 2015 model can’t have?

    assist, and adaptive cruise control come to mind.

    A new EV versus a new ICE, yeah fair enough

    Well, buying a new car is what I’m interested in. I want something reliable, not something with 10 years of wear and tear on it. Hell, a big draw of EVs is their dramatically simpler maintenance plan. If I’m in the market for an EV, a 10 year old ICE just isn’t a good alternative.

    Especially if you can get your hands on something like a 1.0l with a giant turbo strapped to the side. They’re pretty common in Europe, I don’t know about America.

    I really wish… I got back into motorcycles this year, so I have a 250cc engine to move me around now.

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    • boonhet@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You can get adaptive cruise control as far back as the 1998 Mercedes S-class. Though that model has a lot of issues. Get 2005+ for nightvision and other cool toys plus better reliability.

      A 2025 Hyundai is not going to offer you significantly better safety than that, if it’s truly safety you’re after. Definitely not some small CUV that fits entirely in the the front crumple zone of the S. You’re right about maintenance though. Just lease something new and let the second or third owner worry about the consequences of modern maintenance schedules. Or like you said, get an EV and sell it before the battery warranty is out. It’s not like you’re actually going to be able to affect an entire industry by holding out on buying new lol. Just don’t be left holding the bag on the repair costs of modern cars.

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      • FlexibleToast@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        2025 Hyundai EV is going to require FAR less maintenance than an old Mercedes. I’ve owned a fairly young VW and immediately dumped it when the manufacturer recertified warranty ran out. Every little repair on those German cars are ridiculously expensive.

        Or like you said, get an EV and sell it before the battery warranty is out. It’s not like you’re actually going to be able to affect an entire industry by holding out on buying new lol

        Yeah, that’s kind of my point. Historically, boycotts just don’t work unless the overall sentiment was already shifting. Like Tesla right now. They were already losing sales because of their tired designs and were already offering deep incentives. Elon just accelerated the downfall by going full Nazi.

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• watson387@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I will be the first one to tell you that the infotainment system in my Subaru makes the car LESS safe to drive.

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  • FlexibleToast@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I can believe that. My job has me travel, so I’ve rented a lot of different vehicles. Some are definitely more intuitive than others. I don’t think I’ve had a Subaru though.

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