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Dibbix@lemmy.world 8 months agoJust gonna pretend that the rest of the thread doesn’t exist, are you?
We’re talking about the high number of neo-nazis on Gab and their influence on Gab in general. Could someone have a conversation with a Nazi about the weather? Maybe, but the odds of the phrase “Jewish space lasers” coming up is significantly higher than in a conversation with someone who isn’t a Nazi.
But to be clear, i did not say “conversing with Nazis makes people spread their talking points to others”. I said they would be getting talking points from Nazis. Nothing is “making” people spread Nazism.
xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
You assumed that I’m a Nazi based on the fact that I support everyone having a right to express their opinion. (Which actual Nazis don’t, by the way, making this reasoning even more absurd.)
Dibbix@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Now you’ve crossed from being disingenuous into outright lying.
I did not assume you’re a Nazi, i said “you seem well acquainted with Nazism” which, based on your eagerness to defend them, is accurate.
You have not once expressed that you “support everyone having a right to express their opinion” in this thread, nor even in this post. You’ve merely attempted to employ the Socratic method (rather clumsily) to excuse Nazism.
When you’re done pretending you’re the victim here and you’re ready to have a genuine conversation let me know.
xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Again. I’m not defending Nazis. I’m defending EVERYONE.
jet@hackertalks.com 8 months ago
This is why having open conversations on social networks are difficult. People are deliberately taking an obtuse interpretation of your words, or even a total mischaracterization, and reacting to that. But not really engaging in healthy debate.
From a principled perspective, I agree everyone should have the right to associate and speak.
If I were to genuinely try to guess the opposing viewpoint, some people have the ideas that are too dangerous, and they shouldn’t communicate, they shouldn’t have the ability to speak. Anybody who associates with those people is enabling them.
So the core schism here appears to be how do we deal with dangerous ideas, and is it more dangerous to censor people, or to not censor people?
But we never get to talk about that, because the debate becomes " you’re a Nazi, or you’re supporting Nazis which is the same thing, lalala I’m not listening to Nazis".
Dibbix@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Uh huh