Comment on Sir Gareth Southgate: Boys need role models, not gaming and porn
whotookkarl@lemmy.world 5 days agoHe had some bangers but also some real shit takes like slaves obey your masters, faith healing, and substitutionary atonement. He’s been dead for ages and the multiple times he told his disciples the second coming would be within their lifetime never happened.
If you want better role models look at Fred Rogers Dolly Parton, Bob Ross, people that are generous and charitable without damning anyone who doesn’t agree with their religion or believe they are a divine messiah.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 days ago
Slaves obey your masters wasn’t Jesus. Also, what’s wrong with substitutionary atonement?
whotookkarl@lemmy.world 4 days ago
If I steal 20 bucks from you then I need to ask for your forgiveness, if my friend Tom forgives me it does nothing to apologize to or provide reparations for victims.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 days ago
Because if we were all to be punished for our sin, everyone will be thrown into hell eternally. That’s the punishment for sin.
whotookkarl@lemmy.world 4 days ago
That doesn’t justify the substitution, and if that god exists that’s not justice, that’s just an evil god who decided that eternal torture is an appropriate punishment for being born into inescapable sin with no chance of rehabilitation after a short life.
If the original sin was committed by Adam and Eve to eat the fruit of knowledge of good and bad, which they themselves would not know was bad because they hadn’t yet eaten it, then threatening to punish them and all of their descendents with eternal torture forever is evil. There’s also no reason that the atonement of sin to an all powerful god requires a blood sacrifice or any sacrifice except by his rules, there are multiple sin atonements in the Bible accepting flour, money, incense, prayer, etc.