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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

there ever been a wide-scale student protest movement that WASN’T unequivocally vindicated by history?

National Socialist German Student League were literal Nazis
The Red Guards were a Student-led paramilitary group.
Japanese Students protested against the U.S.-Japan Security Treaty (Anpo)
Veganism?

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CitricBase@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Veganism?

Hold up, you think the vegans are in the wrong? You can say that they’re annoying, but in terms of ethics and morals it’s not even an argument. It’s fine to not like tofu or whatever, but there is no amount of verbal gymnastics anyone can do to even begin to justify the modern meat and dairy industries. That shit is basically Animal Auschwitz times a billion.
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- nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  it’s possible that the modern industry is bad and vegans are still wrong
  
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- Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I mainly put that in to see what reaction it would get.
  
  For arguments sake, there is a militant strain of veganism (e.g. PETA) that is not always on the right side of history. But the damage done there is tiny compared to the other side of the scale.
  
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smayonak@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
The key word is “widescale”. The reason is that a malignant narcissist can get a small group of cultists to do anything. But in order to get a msg group of cultists to do something, he needs a propaganda machine like fox News and they have a much older demographic

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- Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I think the examples I gave were wide-scale for their time in history.
  
  But I don’t really want to argue against OPs point. The intelligent, not yet indoctrinated, youth are usually on the right side of history.
  
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  - smayonak@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I completely agree with you. There might be some exceptions but in general what you say is true: when there’s a sea change, a zeigeist, young people are the first to sense it. You don’t get sweeping changes and protests at the senior care facility.
    
    I think it’s also that the young have less to lose and more to gain. Most gen Xer are sitting around on their hands because they stand to lose much more than they gain. They have mortgage and car payments, children, and health insurance. If anything breaks, that can all come tumbling down.
    
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