Comment on dear republicans, what's the point of alienating every single ally of the US?

• Snowclone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  If you want more money in public hands, holy shit is supporting a republican at any point from Regan to Trump the dumbest shit you could vote for. This is the party of ‘‘goverment doesn’t work’’ and privatization of all public services. They have never been shy about just how little tax revenue they want to end up in gov service to citizens.

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  • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’m aware. I’ve never voted Republican in my life and don’t intend to.

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• zenitsu@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You realise private workers are also civilians with lives aka members of the public. Wtf do you mean “in private hands rather than the public”?

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  • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    “Public funds” refers to money held by the government, tax revenue. The amount of public funds is limited and there are a lot of valid, competing priorities for how the government spends it’s money. Every dollar of public funds spent on bombs is a dollar that’s not available for things like schools and infrastructure.

    Private workers receive only some of the funds spent on manufacturing bombs. A significant portion of it goes to executives and shareholders in the military-industrial complex, as well as finding their way to politicians in the form of bribes. Private funds cannot be allocated to public services unless the individual chooses to donate them, or they are taxed back into being public.

    I really shouldn’t have to explain this, the difference between public and private is extremely basic.

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    • zenitsu@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      What I’m not sure about is what tou have an issue with. The money invested into arms replenishment is a boost to US jobs/the economy. Why the complaint that it’s left the treasury?

      Not to mention, the investment has been miniscule given the situation, how much is “too much” for peace in Europe/World? There can be no prosp without security.

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      • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        What I’m not sure about is what you have an issue with. The money invested into arms replenishment is a boost to US jobs/the economy. Why the complaint that it’s left the treasury?

        Virtually every possible use of that money is “a boost to jobs/the economy.” If they spent more on education, teachers would have more money to spend which would create more jobs and stimulate the economy. If they spent the money building trains, it would create more jobs and stimulate the economy. If they spent the money paying people to dig ditches and then fill the ditches back in, it would create more jobs and stimulate the economy. This talking point is complete nonsense and either ignorant or disingenuous. The arms industry is not particularly good for creating jobs/economic stimulus compared to spending the money on other things like education, you’re trying to compare it to what, not spending it at all? That makes no sense.

        Not to mention, the investment has been miniscule given the situation, how much is “too much” for peace in Europe/World? There can be no prosperity without security.

        That assumes that funding the conflict and building more bombs is necessary to bring about peace and security, which I personally disagree with, but my position on the matter is irrelevant, the original comment was just seeking to answer the question and describe what some people on the right believe. Regardless of whether it’s true or not that the military aid is necessary for peace, many people don’t agree with that assessment.

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    • Litebit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Executives and shareholders are americans too.

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      • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        This is such an inane point. Yes they are “Americans” but the goal of public policy shouldn’t be to just give money to whoever so long as they’re Americans. The same $100 means a lot more to a poor person than to a rich person, and they are also a lot more likely to spend the money, stimulating the economy and providing more tax revenue in a virtuous cycle.

        Like the difference between public and private, this is extremely basic economics.

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• Litebit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  In american workers hands too.

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