“I take seven {kids} from {Columbine}, stand 'em all in line
Add an AK-47, a revolver, a .9
A MAC-11 and it oughta solve the problem of mine
And that’s a whole school of bullies shot up all at one time (Ahh-! Ahh-ahh-!)”
I was a teenager when he released the Slim Shady and Marshall Mathers LPs. It was pretty obvious to me that the more extreme takes were an act. Which is very different from Tate and the like, who claim society lies to men and they are revealing the truth.
quite certain eminem is specifically commenting on the cause of school shootings and how terrible they are, he’s not saying they’re good, he’s saying things fucking suck and we should fix them so school shootings stop happening…
I don’t think that’s wrong, though I think he picked a bad choice with columbine as both shooters were bullies themselves and not loner outcasts as perceived.
However it wasn’t my point, which obviously didn’t get across given the response, my point is that artist intention doesn’t always matter, we easily accept the concept of death of the author when critiquing works, and we also easily accept that at least some forms of media have a direct effect on people’s decision making. So while I don’t think any artist should be censored, I do think it’s foolish to imply that just because something is in a song (or by an extension, is played by a character) it means that nothing bad can happen.
If SpongeBob was telling kids how to stick a fork in the outlet is it fine because SpongeBob is a character
Besides, according to the man himself, on his own website, the lyrics are about relating to the shooters. From eminem.com - “Eminem was often bullied growing up, so part of him understands the desire to lash out at your entire school that the Columbine shooters felt”
I like Eminem but let’s be real, this is a shock lyric, there is not much deeper meaning and the rest of the verse moves on quickly.
Also, didn’t em himself have multiple songs and music videos about his influence and how children shouldn’t listen to his music
Takumidesh@lemmy.world 1 week ago
“I take seven {kids} from {Columbine}, stand 'em all in line Add an AK-47, a revolver, a .9 A MAC-11 and it oughta solve the problem of mine And that’s a whole school of bullies shot up all at one time (Ahh-! Ahh-ahh-!)”
loutr@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
I was a teenager when he released the Slim Shady and Marshall Mathers LPs. It was pretty obvious to me that the more extreme takes were an act. Which is very different from Tate and the like, who claim society lies to men and they are revealing the truth.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
quite certain eminem is specifically commenting on the cause of school shootings and how terrible they are, he’s not saying they’re good, he’s saying things fucking suck and we should fix them so school shootings stop happening…
Takumidesh@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I don’t think that’s wrong, though I think he picked a bad choice with columbine as both shooters were bullies themselves and not loner outcasts as perceived.
However it wasn’t my point, which obviously didn’t get across given the response, my point is that artist intention doesn’t always matter, we easily accept the concept of death of the author when critiquing works, and we also easily accept that at least some forms of media have a direct effect on people’s decision making. So while I don’t think any artist should be censored, I do think it’s foolish to imply that just because something is in a song (or by an extension, is played by a character) it means that nothing bad can happen.
If SpongeBob was telling kids how to stick a fork in the outlet is it fine because SpongeBob is a character
Besides, according to the man himself, on his own website, the lyrics are about relating to the shooters. From eminem.com - “Eminem was often bullied growing up, so part of him understands the desire to lash out at your entire school that the Columbine shooters felt”
I like Eminem but let’s be real, this is a shock lyric, there is not much deeper meaning and the rest of the verse moves on quickly.
Also, didn’t em himself have multiple songs and music videos about his influence and how children shouldn’t listen to his music