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EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

Inaction is still a choice, though. I totally understand the sentiment behind that choice and even agree that we shouldn’t be forced to choose genocide, but the alternative that we got is a man who not only wants the same genocide, but wants to accelerate it, put American boots on the ground to assist in it, and then turn the bloodied ground into resorts while also wanting to worsen life across the globe. So, by refusing to act, they didn’t oppose that man getting into power. They cared so much about genocide that, ironically, they enabled making that genocide worse by not acting against that possibility.

The biggest issue, though, is with the people who couldn’t be bothered enough to vote. Some, what, 40% of Americans never vote? Of course, there’s plenty there who can’t due to things like gerrymandering, but there’s a huge swathe of white suburbanites who simply prefer the status quo to actually improving things.

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nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

by refusing to act, they didn’t oppose that man getting into power.

you can refuse to vote for a Democrat and still oppose the man getting into power.

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- EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  But thanks to the two party system, what effect does it have? And I’m specifically talking about the voting day of the presidential election here, not primaries or other elections. Because that’s where those efforts will have the most impact. Not that the Dems deigned to give us even the illusion of a primary this election (or in 2016, truthfully), but so many of these people seem to shake their fist once every 4 years and then go to sleep like cicadas awaiting the next presidential election.
  
  I don’t blame people for hating the weak candidates that the Dems consistently push forward to maintain the old guards’ leadership positions, but I do blame them for looking at the alternative and saying “I’m okay with the possibility of that man winning if I don’t vote or vote third party.” The chance of a Trump victory and all that it entailed was a line in the sand that they were willing to cross.
  
  As a trans woman, I blame them for saying, “Your life is not worth biting the bullet for.”
  
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  - nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    
    As a trans woman, I blame them for saying, “Your life is not worth biting the bullet for.”
    
    I don’t believe voting for Democrats is an effective way to save anyone’s life.
    
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  - nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    
    The chance of a Trump victory and all that it entailed was a line in the sand that they were willing to cross.
    
    that chance was thrust upon all of us. accepting reality doesn’t make him acceptable.
    
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    nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Yet refusing to accept the reality of mathematics that showed that, in a FPTP system, not voting for a viable candidate opposing a fascist only helps the fascist is acceptable? Nah. The blood is on the hands of both dems and non-voters. Non-voters/protest voters don’t give a fuck about trans people, as shown by their actions.
    
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  - nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    
    looking at the alternative and saying “I’m okay with the possibility of that man winning if I don’t vote or vote third party.”
    
    whether I vote for Dems or no, I’m not ok with republican candidates.
    
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UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

The biggest issue, though, is with the people who couldn’t be bothered enough to vote. Some, what, 40% of Americans never vote?

Sounds like First-past-the-post voting doesn’t properly represent the population. Let’s try a new electoral system to fix this. The people of Alaska switched to Ranked Choice and they had a referendum last election to go back to FPTP voting, and they didn’t want to.

Videos on alternative voting systems
First Past The Post voting (What most states use now) Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out. STAR voting Alternative vote Ranked Choice voting Range Voting Single Transferable Vote Mixed Member Proportional representation

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- EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  I absolutely agree, though I know of at least one other place that tried it and had issues because nobody knew who the candidates were or what their positions were, but IIRC, there was some context to it that made it a “well, of course they had problems” situation instead of people just being too lazy to read up on the candidates (though that is a very real but solvable issue). Like there were 10 districts on the ballot with 6 open seats in each, and they had about 30 candidates per district or something crazy like that.
  
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