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Comment on Firefox deletes promise to never sell personal data, asks users not to panic

Kichae@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Never have, never will.

So, here’s the funny thing about “never will”. It’s not a promise you can go back on. “Never will” means “forever won’t”.

Changing that language is a breech of trust. Getting all “nuanced” and weasel-wordy about it doesn’t change that.

Folks should start looking into whether the previous promise is legally binding in any way, and start preparing for a class action suit if it is. Because Mozilla’s better dead than it is as zombie smoke screen for this horse shit.

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ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You realise if Mozilla disappears there is only chromium

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- lemminator@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That doesn’t detract from OP’s point. I want Mozilla to be a good, privacy respecting organization, but they aren’t anymore.
  
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  - ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Gonna need a source
    
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    lemminator@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    A source for what?
    
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- Kichae@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  They’ve been hiding behind that excuse for a decade now. How far do they get to take it? How far do they get to go before we’re “allowed” to tell them to eat shit?
  
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- anachronist@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  If Firefox disappears. Mozilla isn’t Firefox, it’s the organization staffed with ad-tech and McKinsey ghouls and paid by Google to kill Firefox.
  
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teawrecks@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It seems like the issue here is, users want to be spoken to in colloquial language they understand, but any document a legal entity produces MUST be in unambiguous “legal” language.

So unless there’s a way to write a separate “unofficial FAQ” with what they want to say, they are limited to what they legally have to say.

And maybe that’s a good thing. Maybe now they need to create a formal document specifying in the best legalese exactly what they mean when they say they “will never sell your data”, because if there’s any ambiguity around it, then customers deserve for them to disambiguate. Unfortunately, it’s probably not going read as quick and catchy as an ambiguous statement.

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- anachronist@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  the issue here is
  
  The issue is Mozilla’s McKinsey CEO has decided to break the promise not to sell personal data.
  
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anachronist@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The equally hilarious thing is that currently they have the “never will” promise in the same codebase as the “definitely will” gated by a “TOU” flag, showing intent to violate the promise.

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