This is like saying we should throw our litter on the floor because it keeps people employed to pick it up.
It’s labour that doesn’t need to exist in the first place because people can’t be considerate of others.
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Snapz@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Why is this practice promoted?
It’s someone’s job and they make their money grabbing those carts, aren’t we taking that away from them if all is perfectly arranged and they can just collect the carts in 2 minutes? This concept seems to only benefit the business in saving labor?
Coincidentally, I was checking out two days ago at a Costco and the manager came up to my cashier and said, “close up after this one, I’m going to send you home early okay?” The cashier said, “yeah, I guess…” But you could tell they clearly didn’t want to leave early. If there were a bunch of carts in the parking lot at that point, feels like that person might get an extra 30 mins or so on the clock… Why aren’t we supporting that? Manager would say, " let’s close you down after this one, and then please do a lap in the parking lot to grab carts before you go"
Us carefully putting the carts away as customers is just free labor that the corporation benefits from… Period. How does this help the worker making an hourly wage?
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frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 4 days ago
You literally said the labor does have to exist
It’s just who is doing the labor.
Snapz@lemmy.world 4 days ago
“labor that doesn’t need to exist” feels like it’s from a very privileged POV. what if those 30-40 mins here and there are the difference between me meeting the 29 hour a week threshold required to qualify for health or education benefits?
I’m commenting from a US biased perspective where you seem to be commenting from a European perspective based on your spelling. If that’s the case, you already have your core needs met through your government, we do not in this flawed country.
Hyggyldy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
I hope you hit a shopping cart in a parking lot.
Snapz@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I hope you learn to consider nuance and stop arguing against the interests of workers in favor of heartless corporations.
Hyggyldy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
That’s a nice excuse. Whatever you gotta tell yourself, I suppose. I doubt you even believe it though. At least I hope you’re smarter than that.
frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 3 days ago
Wow that’s solid condescension. What would probably help though is if you made it more clear that you think you’re superior to the other poster. Maybe you could say “don’t worry, you’ll get there”? Or perhaps “we’ve all been there, I’m sure you’ll be fine when you grow up”?
frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 4 days ago
Oooh I can escalate this one. I hope you learn to drive, so you can get safely home rather than hitting very large, often brightly colored baskets with padding on all four corners.
So that you can cut your foot in the shower, get gangrene, and have to have it amputated.
Tee hee?
Hyggyldy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
Escalated from consequences for your actions to a deranged death fantasy. Must be terrifying to be around you.
frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 4 days ago
Wait does amputation mean death?
Shit I had the wrong definition all along :(((((
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
As a person who did this for a job in my youth, may I first say, fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
As a worker, collecting stray carts that people left around the parking lot ate up the most time and was the least productive time I’ve ever spent while working. Also, at the store I worked at was fairly popular, on busy days, just collecting carts from the corrales took up enough time that I didn’t really have time left over to make up for you being a lazy asshole.
As a consumer, I put away other people’s stray carts, not only for the reasons above but because I don’t want the cart demon to direct the carts into my car and cause it any damage. I also don’t want my discarded cart to end up causing damage to anyone else’s car. So fuck you for creating an easily avoidable problem that has the potential to damage my property. You suck.
Objectively, returning your cart is the correct, and proper path to take. However, nobody will arrest you, or fine you for not doing it. It is purely voluntary, but universally recognized as the right thing to do. Since you do not do it, what does that mean about you as a person? I think it means you’re a dickhead.
Stop being selfish and lazy, then justifying it with “someone gets paid to do that”. No, that’s not the reason. The reason is that you’re a terrible person, an asshole, and a dickhead.
So I reiterate: fuck you, and the horse you rode in on.
Snapz@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Again, not addressing the valid points I’ve introduced. Also, very odd phrasing throughout…
“Did this for a job in my youth?” We humans don’t speak like that? Also, “in my youth” sounds like the shopping cars you were collecting were horse drawn.
“the least productive time I ever spent while working?” Who the fuck worries about productivity in a minimum wage job like this? “Yeah, I don’t know Dad… I’ve just been really worried lately that my productivity is down this quarter. I’m cleaning up less vomit per hour at Weiner Hut than typical and I’m just worried the business owner isn’t extracting as much profit from my labor as they could be…”
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
Thanks for the ad hominem response.
I will take your comments under advisement exactly as much as I have respect for your opinion.
Have a good day.
Dempf@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Sounds like we’ve got a lazybones over here.
Randomocity@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
As someone who has previously put carts away for a job. No, not only does leaving carts out make it more annoying to pick up it can also damage other people’s vehicles, and take up parking spots. Carts roll around or are difficult to see and can get hit. This is the equivalent of saying to just knock stuff off the shelf as you walk through the store, an employee would have to pick that up and it would just cost the company money.
frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 4 days ago
Leaving a shopping cart near your car is the same as deliberately causing damage to products in the store? Very very interesting point of view, if completely unhinged.
Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
You have strong opinions on this topic for there being “a million more urgent matters” or whatever you said in your other comment.
frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 3 days ago
What about what I said was strong? I don’t think you know what strong opinions are.
Besides now im just messing with all the dumb fuckers, and I will always make time to mess with people who have weird fetishes they insist on forcing on other people. Like furries.
Snapz@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I don’t think this comment actually responds to my points. I’ve worked many hourly retail and restaurant jobs myself. In many there was a regular struggle to hit minimum hours per week to qualify for benefits and managers were instructed to cut people during perceived slow times - none of this considering that I sat in an hour traffic to show up for my scheduled 8 hour shift that I need to meet to make my rent.
I was happy when gobacks piled up, shelves needed to be faced, tables needed to be bused and yes, to carts needed to be collected. When that was the case, I typically made my hours in those common, “we’re going to need to cut someone” moments.
Again, this entire conversation seems biased to the business owner, the corporation’s labor cost, and not the employee. Saying “all the carts are going to hit cars” is a false premise, in my opinion. And what I’m arguing for is the “good trouble” version of this. Place the carts safely away and maybe near the corral, but not in the corral.