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spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 days agoBeing gay to the point of not having any interest in the other sex is clearly a mental disorder too…
So there’s this thing called nature where tons of species have members that have same sex partners because it is actually a completely normal thing. Humans happen to be one of them. Not every single member of a species puts reproduction as the highest possible priority as long as enough do to maintain the population.
In fact, the vast majority of things we consider to be mental disorders are only categorized that way because they cause disruption to people’s lives without an outside influence, and being gay is only disruptive due to outside pressures by bigots and small minded people who consider it ‘wrong’.
Tgo_up@lemm.ee 5 days ago
So yeah I basically use the term wrong, my bad… I had no idea it had to be disruptive without outside influence.
Plenty of animals have gay sex, I don’t think we know of any that has an aversion to the opposite sex, to the point where they don’t try to procreate.
When I say something is “wrong” I mean something that is not like the average individual of that species…
I’ve never said anything negative about gays or trans people. I could not care less how people want to live their life.
I guess I should call it a mental differentiator instead of a mental disorder.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Being different is not the same as being wrong. That view is the foundation of racism and bigotry.
You called them ‘wrong’ in this thread, so yes you have. That is an extremely negative thing to say.
Or you could just stop trying to come up with a label that tries to separate them from the general populace. Maybe you should stop talking about them at all and spend time observing how they see themselves and how society treats them negatively by focusing on how they are different as if being different was inherently a bad thing.
Tgo_up@lemm.ee 5 days ago
I think the word “wrong” has other connotations to most Americans than it does to me. I can agree that “wrong” is probably not the word to use when thinking about the American use of the word.
To me it’s like if someone was born with only one leg. There is something wrong with their body.
madjo@feddit.nl 5 days ago
What you call “wrong”, I would call “different”.
It’s not wrong to be gay, it’s not wrong to be trans, it’s not wrong to be ace.
It’s different to be gay, trans or ace.
Tgo_up@lemm.ee 5 days ago
I don’t think it’s wrong to be gay or trans, just like I don’t think it’s wrong to only have 1 leg.
punkisundead@slrpnk.net 5 days ago
I think comparing gender or sexual orientation to a disability is also not the way to go. Its a very different experience with very different challenges in our current society.
If what you say is true about not being anti queer, I think you should try to refelct the way you view and talk about queer people. The reactiona to ypur comments are so big/aggressive because the rhetoric you use is very similar to the rhetoric many bigots use when talking about queer folks. So even if you mean it differently, from our perspective it really looks the same / similar.