Comment on Venezuelan Migrant Sent to Guantánamo Bay Is ‘Not a Criminal,’ Family Pleads
silence7@slrpnk.net 1 week agoMind you, he isn’t somebody who has ever voted in a US election, having never gotten further than an appointment with immigration officials at the border.
cabbage@piefed.social 1 week ago
I don't think neons referred to him, but to Americans.
As in "look at the fascist fucking mess we have made for ourselves, and it has barely even started. We asked for this and now it's happening, it's all our falult and it's all fucked".
MossyFeathers@pawb.social 1 week ago
Yeah, I hate this kind of statement.
No. I personally did not ask for this.
I did not want this.
I will not take responsibility for this.
I will not allow you to rope me into your attempt to diffuse reponsibility.
I, myself, am increasingly at risk of finding myself shipped off to Guantanamo Bay. Every immigrant they do this to brings them one step closer to me. Call me selfish, but imo I have no duty to anyone when it comes to cleaning up the mess that I voted against. Instead, I’m gonna be finding ways for myself and other trans people to get out of the country while I still can.
You can claim responsibility and try to clean up if you want to, but I’m gonna be trying to leave.
neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
Sure, let me just fly across the atlantic to clean up the mess that you made while you and all the other ones responsible flee the mess.
That’s not how this works.
Germany and the germans had to take responsibility for what the Nazis did. The same way you and all us-americans will have to take responsibility for what Trump does/will do.
Weasling yourself out of your responsibilities is highly irresponsible, disrespectful to all of Trumps victims and is directly enabling fascism. Remember that most Germans weren’t Nazis, they were just willing enough to stand by as the Nazis commited their crimes. Enabling a genocide still makes you responsible for a genocide.
The quote of Martin Niemöller comes to mind.
And if you really want to leave: Please don’t come to Europe. We already had one Martin Niemöller and learned our lesson, we don’t need you anymore for that.
MossyFeathers@pawb.social 1 week ago
Ah, yes, I forgot that the Jewish Germans had to take responsibility for what the Nazis did to them.
I’m trans. I’m next in line. You’re victim-blaming, asshole.
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 week ago
I hate you say it, but it’s kind of right in a way. Those of us who knew right from wrong and let it slide by because the wrong was coming from our family and friends and loved ones and we ignored it long enough to fester to the point we have a full on nazi party again. It’s not our fault these people are vile soulless creatures, but it’s our fault for doing nothing about all the obvious signs that have been present for decades.
MossyFeathers@pawb.social 1 week ago
I wasn’t. I was trying to educate the people around me, but they didn’t want to be educated. They wouldn’t listen. Hell, my grandparents swore they wouldn’t vote for Trump again and did it anyway. What was I supposed to do, take them out back and put em out of their misery?