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• shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  First of all, ad hominem. Second, it is nothing more than falsely-concluded speculation to say I asked myself. Third, I don’t even sound how you claim/imply I do.

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  • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    That’s not an ad hominem. Don’t use words you don’t know the meaning to.

    If somebody insults you while also attacking an argument you made, that’s not an ad hominem. An ad hominem is specifically only when someone uses a personal attack to attempt to directly refute your argument. And even then, just because something is a logical fallacy, doesn’t mean it’s a bad argument. That’s called the Fallacy fallacy. Good arguments can still include logical fallacies such as ad hominems.

    For example, if I say Kanye West is wrong about Jews being untrustworthy because he’s a shitty person and a Nazi, that’s an ad hominem. But it’s also true. The personal attack takes nothing away from the validity of my argument.

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    • shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      An ad hominem is specifically only when someone uses a personal attack to attempt to directly refute your argument.

      And randomly claiming or bringing up the authenticity of what they think was said to be someone’s voice (as a form of a comeback) doesn’t fall under that?

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      • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        No, that would probably be a strawman instead.

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