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_lunar@lemmy.ml 2 weeks agoYou dress like a girl, experience what most female-presenting people experience, and you still don’t fucking understand. Amazing. Tell me, was it women cat calling you and threatening to rape you? Or was it other men? If so, this bigotry wasn’t bigotry against men, it was bigotry against a man who isn’t masculine enough for other men’s standards. Bigotry against a man thought to be a woman by other men. The problem once again remains toxic masculinity manifested in men, or to put it simply, men.
I’m angry for the discrimination you’ve experienced, but I’m not directing it toward women who are speaking about experiencing the same things you have at the hands of men, the way you are in this thread.
Your problem is that you are assuming when we say “men” we’re including you and literally every other man in existence. Words have meanings and there’s a reason why we’re not specifically using “all.”
You’re not going to be treated well for being feminine-presenting until misogyny is defeated, and that isn’t going to happen until guys like you stop being dismissive of women’s experiences because you get defensive on behalf of all men for no fucking reason.
Fleur_@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
I don’t blame men for it because it’s not mens fault it’s that fuckers fault. You don’t understand and you don’t even want to. I don’t blame women for harassing me and refusing service to me when I’m trying to buy clothes. You know who I blame. I blame that fucker.
_lunar@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
By choosing to ignore that men are the primary offenders of violence not just against women but in general, only viewing it as an individual failings, we won’t be able to make any progress toward remedying the actual problem at hand. Men are socialized under patriarchy, it gives many of them (not all of them and I’m tired of having to say this) a poor sense of emotional regulation and an even poorer view of women as equal human beings who are deserving of fair treatment. You’re the one who doesn’t want to understand, and your point of view services the unjust status quo that thinks that crime should be addressed after it’s committed rather than addressing the social conditions of the source.
Fleur_@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
By alienating men and refusing to listen to them they have been driven to the right. It’s so easy to empathise with the issues facing men because they are the issues facing everyone. Your misplaced blame to men is akin to the typical right wing bigots misplaced blame to transgender people and minorities. They will use statistics to back up the claims they make and you will see through their attempts but then do the same thing to men and be unable to see the contradiction. I’m sorry that you can’t, and never will, see further than your own narrow experience. I am pessimistic because of people like you. You are the indoctrinated right winger, a parallel track that insists it runs in a different direction.
_lunar@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Men are being driven to the right because of propagandists like you parroting MRA and incel rhetoric that is designed to appear empathetic toward men’s issues (which are often everyone’s issues under the current status quo being presented as men-only issues) while steering them away from understanding the roots of (patriarchy) and solutions to (feminism) the problem.
If right wingers used statistics they wouldn’t come to the conclusions they do because reality has a left wing bias and statistics don’t back up their claims.