Whatavout whatabout whatabout
Comment on It really is like this
liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works 1 day agoWe, in fact, do own land. We just have an explicit contract with our government vs the implicit one people in the US have. Look into imminent domain seizures in the US.
threshold_dweller@lemmy.today 17 hours ago
liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
Using comparisons to make a point is not whataboubtism, Mr. Shapiro.
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 hours ago
…you know that a lease isn’t ownership right?
Yes, they can take land you own… That doesn’t mean you don’t own it lol. Just because you can lose something doesn’t mean you don’t own it
liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
…the ‘lease’ is that you don’t own it independent of the government, as in despite owning the land you’re not your own country. You’ll find this in every country, except in China it’s spelled out. It has an expiration since, you know, China tends to reform itself over time. None have expired, and right now under current law none of them can expire, they are automatically renewed to the owner at the time of expiry, with the assumption the owner isn’t going to commit treason.
Like the ‘social credit score’ nonsense you people made up, it’s a gross misinterpretation of reality that you believe because you fundamentally believe Chinese people are different than you.
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 hours ago
??? Fascist government vs democracy (fingers crossed we stay one) and you think there isn’t a difference? Man you’ve been swallowing some serious propaganda. It’s not about the people, it’s about the government.
No, you won’t. It’s a different system. I’m not going to say it’s a worse system, because it’s not really, it’s just a different system. But you need to recognize that it is substantially different. A lease is different from pure ownership. There’s a lot less guarantees involved.
liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
By no definition of fascism is China fascist. Reread your Eco.
The government is the people. A fifth of the Chinese public are cpc members. It costs nothing to join, there are no requirements besides being a citizen and not being a convicted traitor. Anyone can join and start voting and participating.
And again, no, it’s not a different system. I get that you’re angry you’ll never own your home in the US, whereas 92% of Chinese adults over 21 own their own home, but that doesn’t change reality. The ‘lease’ is that your land is under the Chinese government, not the US government or Russians government, and thus subject to the laws in China and can be revoked if you use your land in a revolution against China.
Every single country on earth has this clause. Every single one. China assigns it per feed, rather than an overarching law, because of the autonomous districts that have different leases, like Tibet or Xinjiang.