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• toomanypancakes@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Killing someone who’s done nothing to you and doesn’t want to die is pretty objectively bad.

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  • Soulg@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes, killing other people is objectively bad. Thank you for agreeing with me.

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  • remon@ani.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Could you tell me how you measured that badness and how I can repeat the experiment?

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• JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What is the ‘objective’ source of your morality?

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  • Soulg@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There is none. It’s just my view based on how people see things. You’re allowed to not agree, it doesn’t have to be combative.

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• Jumuta@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  even things like killing being bad is not objective in my opinion, it just simply stems from our minds and societies’ process of growth through natural selection.

  We believe that killing is bad only because we share the majority of their DNA and we are close genetically to what we’re killing. It was evolutionarily incentivised to not kill those that are genetically close, as they and we share common ancestors from which such thoughts evolved.

  this is imo why we value humans more than other animals, animals more than vegetables and relatives over strangers. Friends being valued more than strangers make sense as well, as they share ideas in the place of the shared genome.

  in a wider scope none of this matters anyway, our lives and deaths are irrelevant to the universe and our lives don’t actually matter outside what our minds tell us.

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  • Jumuta@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just to clarify I’m not saying that we should go around killing people, just that objectivity isn’t real in morality

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