Its a good ceasefire. Take the deal. UA can't win the war anytime soon or extract more concessions

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• iamtanmay@wolfballs.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  I hope Ukrainians realize their mistake again after this war. Kick out the corrupt govt who led them to this hell, and be more proactive in electing representatives who will defend their interests.

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• squashkin@wolfballs.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  won't they just take more in the future though after securing this agreement

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  • iamtanmay@wolfballs.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    1. They are giving back all the land gains they made in the invasion. Its generous, and looks like they want an end to the war.

    2. If they wanted more land, they could just keep what they have now.

    3. Putin was consistent since 2014: Ukraine, Sweden, Finland cannot be a part of NATO, with American troops on Russia's border. In January, before invading, Putin sent a final demand, reiterating Ukraine be banned from NATO. The ceasefire focuses on this, and evidence shows was the reason Putin invaded.

    4. Donetsk, Luhansk, Crimea lose money for Russia. They keep them for strategic reasons. Keeping the destroyed East would increase the bill.

    5. East Ukrainians identify with Russia not Ukraine, their people welcomed the 2014 Russian invasion. Does Ukraine have a right to dominate them ?

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    • sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      With what you've just described, it seems like there should be a very easy solution to this: give the people in the affected provinces the choice. Have a referendum, and both sides respect the outcome of that referendum.

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    • squashkin@wolfballs.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Ukraine, Sweden, Finland

      why does Putin not want them in nato

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