Submitted 2 years ago by masterofballs@wolfballs.com to main@wolfballs.com
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I will do my best to make wolfball's rules as close to gab's as possible.
If you haven't seen their interview its a great watch.
https://youtu.be/qwX-NjQYkGM
Hype hype hype ! Gonna watch it
Pool did a good job with the GETTR dude. I think he got it right - GETTR has same TOS because it wanted to be on Google and Apple App stores.
GETTR bro maybe evil or just making a bet on sacrificing Freedom of speech for more normie content, to be seen.
I feel like by removing ActivityPub support, gab is being disingenuous about being free speech. It's like "Oh yeah, we want to let anyone talk, but not you. Just people we control."
Having lived almost exclusively on distributed platforms for a year now, the only way to be free to allow people to host and control their own communities, and not to rely on single monolithic websites to grant us freedom.
Remember that Google pretended to be interested in open protocols too before shutting the door behind them and oh by the way now you're banned for wrongthink.
I am on both sides of this. As @masterofballs@wolfballs.com aid, these technical decisions are sometimes really necessary. After 2020 election, Gab was unusable. Its running really smooth now.
If they don't prioritise opening up GAB with an alternative to ActivityPub, then you could be right, they just want to maximise their platform.
Personally I don't think its a big loss. Ever since I've been on Wolfballs, I have understood the power of the federated platform, and I think its the future. Gab as a platform isn't so relevant, I think personally.
What is truly amazing is the parallel economy stuff Gab is creating. I am waiting to sign up to GabPay, and I am hoping that it will really accelerate the splitting off from Amazon/Visa/Paypal/Google
It's ultimately their choice, and that ability to choose is definitely part of the point of diversifying, I'll admit that. I'm also biased in part because I run all my own websites, and so interoperability means that my users and I can participate, whereas platforms that don't are just as much behind an iron curtain just the same as Facebook is.
I feel like by removing ActivityPub support, gab is being disingenuous about being free speech. It’s like “Oh yeah, we want to let anyone talk, but not you. Just people we control.”
I agree ActivityPub is a great way for normal people to crowd source their computing power to help fight the tyrants of silicon valley. And I plan to continue to study it and try to contribute to the ecosystem.
He explains in the interview during the Q&A the problems they had with activitypub. It had scaling problems.
Here is a video where a gab Software Engineer explains the problems they were having
What was happening IMO is people were using federation as a vector to attack Gab with denial of service attacks. People spinning up hundreds of temporary dummy mastodon nodes to overload Gab's network.
The freedom to speak and think is not going to be saved by a single solution. We need multiple approaches.
Gab is also very grandma friendly. You and I can spin up a instance, connect with different tech but grandma would just get confused.
I'm happy Andrew built a system outside of the control and influence of big tech and I hope he can inspire others to do the same.
You should avoid being too alternative, because vacating the public square allows the orcs to occupy it. Thingslike GabPay need to be as ubiquitous as possible. Channels like CNN and MSNBC and BBC and Guardian need to be proactively crushed, not ignored. You don't win a war by running away, but by choosing when and where to fight each battle. The multiple approaches idea is important because of resilience to inevitable attack and to present a large market to the "middle third" of society than you/we are fighting to recruit from the cryptofascist cult "third". Hiding in noise needs lots of voices to be the noise.
iamtanmay@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
I love the part where he talks about the big financial corps cutting them off. This is how Silicon Valley and the Elites want to kill free speech platforms and conservatives. As long as startups need this infrastructure, the Elites can lord over them.
I just love how Torba explained that they just accepted checks and bitcoin instead. And now they are starting GabPay. This is probably the most important contribution from Gab to free people from having good alternatives to mainstream Gatekeeping by Zuckercuck, Gates et al.
masterofballs@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
I just looked into hosting my own bitcoin payment processor. You can fully expect to see a wolfballs crypto payment system in the next year or two depending on priorities. With a shop and all that to buy swag.
iamtanmay@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
Very very good on you ! 10 years ago, I thought bitcoin would stay at the fringes. After all who can win against the allmighty dollar ?
Its 2022, and looks like the dollar committed suicide......
German inflations was 24% for December..... that's the Euro.....
Amazing what a great job govt has done of destroying the value of hard currency
goldenballs@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
How about monero or pirate? Not because there's anything to hide, but out of principle... The establishment hate monero because they want to ve able to identify senders and receivers to stifle or shut down alternativity... The really only real thing crypto has to offer is freedom from the mainstream system.