Maybe they shouldn’t have fired their QA department
Microsoft finally admits almost all major Windows 11 core features are broken
Submitted 2 days ago by remington@beehaw.org to technology@beehaw.org
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along_the_road@beehaw.org 2 days ago
lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 days ago
“Microsoft”, who? Certainly not Suleyman, Davuluri, or Nadella.
neutronbumblebee@mander.xyz 2 days ago
Open shell is a helpful solution that replaces some of the problems in the windows UI at least for the start menu.
It’s pretty easy to customize most things.
Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Yup I use it, when I must use Windows. So much better than the default, I sometimes forget I am using Win11.
einkorn@feddit.org 2 days ago
I am always baffled as to what Microsoft gets away with because of their monopoly in the consumer market. Imagine them releasing Windows for the first time today.
thingsiplay@beehaw.org 2 days ago
Can you imagine, what if Microsoft in the future will swap to Linux as their Kernel for Windows? Then WINE and Proton are also much better if Microsoft is actively working on it, as they would need it in a Linux based Windows system. I am talking about something like 20 years from from now. Looking at Android or even SteamOS, it could still be filled with proprietary stuff. But Microsoft would benefit from the superior system and lots of free development. Does anyone else think this could be a possibility?
i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
Would Wine be better with Microsoft working on it? The frequency and severity of regressions in Windows has been increasing for years now. Maybe for Wine to be a more accurate representation of Windows 11 it needs more bugs and less functionality. The Windows team is good at that.
bryndos@fedia.io 2 days ago
yeah, wine's trajectory is the complete opposite of MS.
I reject the idea that MS is the expert in MS stuff. corporate structure and institutional knowledge and strategy are not the same as a person knowing something. I'm sure there are people in MS who know more than anyone. but together I suspect they're far far less than the sum of their parts.
I remember trying to open word-97 .doc files in office 2002.
Surely MS knows how to read it's own file format?
Nope, well, not as well as star/sun/open/libreoffice (whichever one it was at the time).I'm sure someone in MS was saying "lets do a bit more work on backwards compatibility"; I'm pretty sure that person was immediately tied to the desk with a giant annoying ribbon and forced to become familiar with a whole box of paperclip suppositories.
Oh hang on, that was decades ago, they've grown so much since then .
thingsiplay@beehaw.org 2 days ago
Yes, because Microsoft knows stuff in Windows that can be utilized in WINE. And maybe open sourcing a few parts to add to it. We are talking about WINE, an open source project where Microsoft doesn’t have the entire say. We can check and correct or reject, unlike whatever happens in closed source Windows.
FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
There is so much Windows software that is dependant on the NT kernel. It is not an inferior kernel by any means either.
Powderhorn@beehaw.org 2 days ago
One is nearly inclined to think that in-house beta testers weren’t a waste of money.
bryndos@fedia.io 2 days ago
Only if revenue goes down.
Sacking testers makes nothing but sense if your customers are as dumb as us. My employer continues to sign contracts before the functions we need have been proven. income independent of functionality.
TBF our procurement people don't seem to think our requirements are any more complex than "big computer" and MS probably offered "really big really good computer, cheap computer, big , nice price, 25% less than oracle, high security, safe computer, cloud, ai, yes fully working with 12 month, you pay now, special discount, extra 10% off if you sign today, hurry rush best deal".
I suspect negotiations like that drive a disappointingly large amounts of their revenue.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 16 hours ago
Microsoft doesn’t sell many computers but yeah, that’s probably the basic premise starting with a hardware manufacturer who includes Windows as the default and then sells them on the business package.
Hirom@beehaw.org 2 days ago
And then Microsoft gets annoyed when people don’t immediately start using Win 10, then Win 1.
Seeing the results, it looks like Win versions had more QA done before the release, whereas nowaday a bigger part of QA is done by customers after the release.