Apple’s lock on iPhone browser engines gets a December deadline

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• mbirth@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Great, let lazy developers ship lots of React/Electron/whatever apps each coming with their own Chrome engines and each being 100MB+ in size. Websites won’t be tested properly on Safari anymore because “please install Chrome from the App Store for maximum compatibility”. And Google’s domination of the browser market will be completely unstoppable.

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  • TehPers@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Well the alternative is what we have now: everyone is forced to use Safari.

    Imagine being upset that people have a choice now.

    Mobile apps are all already written without a care in the world about the user. I doubt Jimmy, who uses exclusively TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook and maybe plays a few ad-infested mobile games, is going to notice a difference, but now people can use Firefox and Chrome if they want instead of being locked to Safari in all its “glory”.

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  • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    apple fanbois are quite something

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  • lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Websites won’t be tested properly on Safari anymore

    They only have to be test on Safari specifically, because it’s doing some things differently from Mozilla and Chrome. Guess Apple will finally have to use their money to actually fix those issues.

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    • TehPers@beehaw.org ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not only is Safari miserable to test on without a Mac, whenever I see an exception to something in caniuse, it’s almost always Safari.

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  • SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Hopefully you are incorrect. Buttt I wouldn’t be surprised if you were correct.

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  • somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    More competition is always better.

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    • mbirth@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      We all thought that when Google came along, too.

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  • dan@upvote.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    A lot iPhone apps already use React. There’s a sample of a few on the React Native site: reactnative.dev/showcase. It’s almost certain that you have at least one React Native app installed on your phone :)

    I’m not sure what being able to run different browsers has to do with Electron, as Electron doesn’t run on mobile at all.

    Sites already misbehave in Safari because there’s so many Safari-specific bugs. It’s similar to IE6 in that sites often need Safari-specific hacks to make them work properly.

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    • mbirth@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s only React now. But misguided developers WILL also package Chrome if given the chance.

      And maybe it’s not Safari making the sites misbehave, maybe it’s Google pushing arbitrary features via their Chromium/Chrome ownership and developers optimising for them instead of adhering to actual standards?

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    • i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      React Native and React are different. React Native does not use a web browser.

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  • protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    this is the biggest fucking cope I ahve seen

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  • vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    you know you’re the one choosing to run those apps, right?

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• deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  So when do we get real Firefox mobile?

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  • tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Simple; use Android.

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  • lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Mozilla said last time they don’t want to maintain two variants of their browser. So unless Apple finally decides custom browser engines are allowed worlwide, a real Firefox probably won’t happen.

    I doubt EU and Japan have enough traction to change Apple’s mind on this issue.

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  • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Probably never? I don’t think we even have real Chrome yet and that’s a trillion dollar company.

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