Submitted 1 day ago by abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us to australianpolitics@aussie.zone
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-10/election-results-independents-rising-charts/105267162
In short, independents and minor parties combined got more vote than a major party (the LNP coalition). I think this is actually great news, it shows how well ranked choice and proportional voting work to empower smaller parties and diversify them.
I always love ABC’s interactive visualisations. They’re usually well-made, and usually aren’t just tacked on jiggling keys.
(obligatory shout-out to explorable explanations^[wiki]^^[collection]^, a similar concept)
Thanks a lot for sharing the links, fascinating. I have admired ABC visual storytelling as well. Do you know by any chance which software do they use to create the visuals? Would love replicate in the presentation.
Will likely change course next election due to the bullshit loophole in the electoral reform bill now in effect where multiple donations below the new cap can be spread across different branches of a party, disproportionately impacting minor parties and independents with few or one branch
Yeah, that’s some bullshit, but the trend away from the duopoly has been ongoing for what, this century ?. That’s just patching a leaky bucket with sand. They scared.
I wouldn’t be able to find the comment, but someone in a thread the other day was talking about how the two major parties will “always control Australian politics” or some such and this just disproves them so much.
IMO the LNP is facing an existential threat.
I’m not saying they’re going to disband tomorrow, but depending on what happens over the coming months it may not be possible for them to ever return to their former glory.
i definately held that opinion for years, probably uo until this election if im being honest.
its nice to live in a politically stable time
hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 day ago
I think it’s great that ranked choice voting means we can have a wider range of candidates. What is concerning is that despite a third of the electorate rejecting the major two, they still get majority governments. Maybe we should be looking at proper proportional representation, given voting is required.
UnfortunateDoorHinge@aussie.zone 17 hours ago
1.6m people voted for the Greens first preference this election, more than the all the Nats and LNP (Qld) combined. That’s the reality of concentrations of demographics in various areas.
It’s not all doom and gloom, tseat of Ryan is a good example of a competitive minor party taking advantage of 2nd place to win. The Greens don’t need to get the most preferences necessarily, just more than labor. If the coalition gets 35% first preference, and Labor have 28%, they don’t need 35, they need 28. Labor’s second preferences get distributed ideally to the Greens and hopefully, they overtake the liberals in a 2pp. Didn’t work for Adam Bandt, but I think we all got caught surprised at just how bad the Liberals did.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone 14 hours ago
Yes, but that’s the point. Having a general set of the population spread across the country wins nothing. Having a local issue or locally popular one issue candidate can get elected, but they will be ineffective. It allows Labor to have a majority with only a small amount extra votes than the libs.
Sure it’s all down to the preference flows in each seat but perhaps we shouldn’t be doing winner takes all seats. I know in Germany they apportion seats based on percent vote, similar to how we do the senate. In Ireland they group districts and the top 3 candidates in a larger district get elected, after all preference flows. So you might get a lib, a lab and a grn rather than 2 libs and a lab, as it is with our divisions.
No system is perfect but we seem to be concentrating power in the hands of the two larger parties with the intention of stability without any evidence it is actually more stable.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 hours ago
Isn’t the thesis of this article that we’re headed towards minority governments ?
Through recent decades votes are tending more towards independents.
I think it’s great too, does it mean we’re trending away from polarisation? That’s nice, honestly.
Maybe it’s a feature of today’s ease of communication. In the past you really needed parties in order to communicate brands and policies. In the information age that’s less critical.
ziltoid101@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Bills still have to get through the senate to get passed at least, so the party with a lower house majority still does have to cater to that third option somewhat.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone 21 hours ago
Somewhat, but it’s on,y to get one or two votes, despite there being a third of the electorate favouring an option that is not big 2. There is some myth about lack of stability if the minor parties have more power. I wouldn’t exactly call the changing of pm by both major parties stable. Coalitions keep power in check and don’t allow them to take voters for granted.