On one hand I think people shouldn’t use Discord anyway, but also, we need to figure out how to make the services we use sustainable.
The enshitification continues.
Submitted 1 week ago by sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al to technology@beehaw.org
On one hand I think people shouldn’t use Discord anyway, but also, we need to figure out how to make the services we use sustainable.
The enshitification continues.
make the services we use sustainable
we can start by not relying on startups and corporations at all.
federated solutions like lemmy have the advantage of not being a capitalist scam with conmen at the top. i’m sure better decisions will be made here when we need more money.
You’re right, but even Lemmy is reliant on donations
reddit was too for the longest time, i honestly don’t think a text-based forum will be that expensive to run until its very full of people. i guess well see…
Discord comes with other issues, but I would be fine with services offering an ad-supported free tier and an ad-free paid tier. That’s been a thing for a while. If Nitro gets rid of these ads, then that seems like a possibly sustainable approach to me.
Of course, this is ignoring Discord’s other issues, like their handling of user data. I’d love a service like Discord that was fully e2ee, even if it had an ad-supported free tier (without tracking) and a paid ad-free tier. Existing alternatives often lack some Discord features, like screen sharing and voice chats.
Their problem is probably that they actually took too long to monetise it.
Before Discord, groups were often paying for hosted team speak, ventrillo or mumble servers. Then almond came discord with it’s VC money and did what they did and more for free. Now most people probably are not willing to pay for what used to be a paid service.
That’s the silicon valley way though, get people hooked, then monetize.
Where are must people going to go, back to teams teamspeak? Nope, most are going nowhere, just like most users didn’t leave reddit.
Maybe I’m just too old (or not enough of a gamer), but I’ve never used Discord for screen sharing or voice chat. It’s basically my current ICQ.
Discord’s call quality is 100x better than a phone call, btw.
The last thing I want to do with complete strangers is give them my phone number lol. Aside from obvious privacy concerns and call quality concerns, Discord is internet-based, so I don’t need cell service or international calling to talk to people.
Screen sharing during voice calls is super helpful as well. It’s a pretty major feature of Discord, Teams, and I believe Skype (RIP), but Teams is not really any better than Discord and a lot more bloated.
or not enough of a gamer
Yeah, Discord’s easy/free voice chat was the reason it got so popular. It was so much easier to use than any of the alternatives, and in-game VC was a mixture of piss-poor quality and full of toxic 14 year olds.
Sooo, where will people go next? What alternatives are available?
Matrix, Revolt
Gimme push to talk.
I personally use Matrix for text and Mumble for voice, but most probably won’t go anywhere. Discord is convenient, and most users won’t care enough about some extra ads to put in the effort to migrate.
Yeah. I mean ill probably stop using the mobile app but unless others migrate I’ll still use the desktop version
For “voice chats with text”, Mumble. Hopefully Jabber or in the worst case scenario Matrix for the general use case.
Can’t seem to catch a break, huh? Why can’t we just have nice things?
discord was never “nice”.
Is there an alternative app that offers a centralised account service but with user hosted servers?
I mean Matrix works across providers, so don’t think you need a centralized account service - just like there’s no central account service for email.
Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 week ago
“Impactful.” A word that no human outside of marketing uses.
millie@beehaw.org 6 days ago
I would never engage in marketing… except for my own indie projects.