Why You Shouldn't Care About Electric Cars

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• just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I normally like Adam, but this is a dumbass take for a number of reasons. Let me name the ones just on the top of my head:

  1. EVs can operate anywhere in the world, and skip the energy dependent bonds of neighboring countries (politics)
  2. You can have a solar install on your home and offset the costs of charging, so it’s essentially free, AND better for the environment (sustainability)
  3. China literally stole all the designs from existing manufacturing processes and use those for their BYD cars. This has already been admitted to, and is a fact. They aren’t “doing better”, they are "making cheaper"
  4. expounding on 3, they only make cheaper cars because of SLAVE LABOR. Unless other countries want to get back into the slavery business, you’re not going to beat that price point.
  5. “Western” car makers carry warranties with their product. China does not. AT.ALL. You buy it, you bought it. Read the fine print and realize that whatever BYD is claiming as a warranty only extends to cars within a certain radius of one of their dealerships, and not outside of China.

  I can go on and on about this, but on headline alone, Adam fucked up her. What a stupid take.

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  • qaz@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I must say that I didn’t expect him not mention this, BBC: Brazil shuts BYD factory site over ‘slavery’ conditions

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• Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Wow, what an arrogant twat. Let’s tackle these stupid criticisms 1 by 1:

  1. Yes, They cost more. The cost is offset by the lower cost of ownership over time. If you finance the car, you never even feel that cost because you just pay the difference to the bank instead of the oil companies, and pocket the remainder. And you get a nicer car in the process.
  2. Longer to refuel. On long trips, yes. The other 99% of the time you actually save a fuckton of time not going to the gas station. Not to mention improved safety and lower risk of ID theft as your CC is stolen (which has happened to me several times).
  3. Battery degrades. Yeah, I mean, so does your engine and transmission and everything else about your ICE car. Batteries will likely outlast your ICE powertrain, and they’ll slowly degrade over time, and when they’re done you can sell them to a recycler and get some of your money back.
  4. Trains/Buses/Bikes. Yeah, these are great if you have them, or the infrastructure that supports them. We don’t have them. If I try to ride my bike to the grocery store 2 miles away there is a very high probability of death, because I have to cross a 70MPH highway, and there’s no other way to get there. This has nothing to do with the discussion of ICE cars vs. electric cars. I both drive an electric and and actively advocate for improved non-car infrastructure but I’m 1 person.
  5. I don’t know what this whole tangent about Chinese cars is about. Those are electric too?

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  • qaz@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    5. I don’t know what this whole tangent about Chinese cars is about. Those are electric too?

    The US and EU is imposing tariffs on Chinese EV’s to prevent competition with their domestic companies. It seems Adam is displeased because he blames the disadvantage of the car companies in the US and EU on them not innovating and investing in EV technology. He also seems to think that the US and EU should have invested more in domestic EV production.

    I don’t entirely disagree but I also feel like not protecting the domestic EV market at all would be a bad idea, since no companies would be left to compete in the future.

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    • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah I got all of that. I don’t understand what it has to do with the title.

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