Submitted 8 months ago by EABOD25@lemm.ee to [deleted]
I think HB and some of the other groups are mostly trolls or Russian, Chinese, Iranian, North Korean, or aligned operatives trying to gas up trolls or wannabe trolls.
There are definitely some well meaning Americans and others who get suckered into the bullshit tornado that is those sites. They are definitely worth saving if we can. But it’s hard. They ban and block anyone with a dissenting voice no matter how calmly presented.
I think HB and some of the other groups are mostly trolls or Russian, Chinese, Iranian, North Korean, or aligned operatives trying to gas up trolls or wannabe trolls.
Do you have any evidence of that at all? Why would Hexbear remain as an isolated instance for 4 years then, only beginning federation in the last year?
Is your question why a propaganda operation focused on disrupting or presidential elections would “go live” 18-ish months before the presidential election?
And are you asking if I have specific evidence that they’re trolls? Or that the governments I’ve listed have troll farms? Or that specifically HB is specifically rife with trolls from this governments’ farms? Because I definitely don’t have specific evidence. Just the historical evidence of (attempted) general interference from those countries in our previous elections.
I see it as the neonazi movement in the US in late 90s and early 2000s. They want to be edgy, but don’t have a significant structure to actually do anything important. Around 2006 I ended up stealing a knife from a neonazi that came in to the restaurant that I worked at. It was a Mexican restaurant btw lol
I’ve never seen a single post or comment from hexbear, so I don’t know lol
They get hate because they challenge the viewpoints of liberals who have never peeped outside their western media echo chambers. They would literally just be considered normal leftists outside the west, but thats like garlic to a vampire for lemmredditors.
If you ask people on .world or .ee, it’s because they have positive views on China and Russia, who are responsible for all ills in the world.
I’d recommend keeping it that way
lemmy.ca has both hexbear and lemmygrad defederated yes.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Where are people seeing this hexbear and lemmygrad content? I use the Thunder client with a lemmy.world account. I don’t have those instances blocked but never see anything from them. Is it because I created my account on lemmy.world?
copygirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Both banned by your instance: lemmy.world/instances
alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Correct. Lemmy.world’s admin “pre-emptively defederated Hexbear as a last resort”.
synae@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Lol. “Pre-emptive last resort” is one of the best oxymorons I’ve heard in a while
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
lemmy.world preemptively defederated from hexbear before hexbear had even turned on the ability to federate. In the Lemmy.world defederation post they also said that defederation has a “last resort” lmao.
I think the LW admins think their users are stupid.
EABOD25@lemm.ee 8 months ago
When you surf the site, do you surf by your subscribed?
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No. I usually browse all.