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The world's only coal-to-nuclear reactor plant just broke ground in Wyoming

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Submitted ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al⁩ to ⁨technology@beehaw.org⁩

https://electrek.co/2024/06/11/coal-to-nuclear-reactor-plant-wyoming/

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  • lowleveldata@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So it’s just a nuclear plant and has nothing to do with coal?

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    • sonori@beehaw.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      At first glance I thought it was reuseing the coal plants turbines, but looking though the article the only connection I can find is that it’s located several miles away and the only connection is that it plans to hire a hundred or so people from the coal plant it’s replacing and that Wyoming’s powder river basin is nearby and its associated highly automated low sulfur coal mines are in the vauge area.

      All this to say, yes it has practically nothing to do with coal.

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      • Dempf@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I wonder if it has to do with reusing the transmission lines from the coal plant.

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    • jjagaimo@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Coal plant burns coal to heat water, makes steam, and the steam powers a turbine to produce electricity. A nuclear power plant uses nuclear fuel to heat water and produce steam similar to a coal plant. It may do this indirectly (e.g. second loop between the nuclear fuel and water loop to prevent the water becoming radioactive). This means that to build a nuclear plant you essentially need to build a coal plant, and then also the nuclear reactor and safety stuff, which makes them more expensive. Since coal plants are being turned off anyways, it might be more cost effective to just retrofit old coal plants so the only cost is the nuclear reactor side of things (plus any necessary maintenance and upgrades)

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    • Mythnubb@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sounds like it’s replacing the neighboring coal power plant.

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      • vinniep@beehaw.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I had to dig up some other sources for info, but this is the case. The new plant has nothing to do with coal, but it is being built to replace the power production and local power related jobs in that area.

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        • TerraPower Press Release
        • World Nuclear News Article (trade publication)
        • AP Article
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  • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh wow, so even more radioactive waste that will afflict thousands of future generations and the environment for a tiny amount of produced energy now :(

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    • Steve@startrek.website ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Coal plants spread radioactive waste inti the air.

      Fission plants leave a hot turd behind, but at least it can be buried in one spot out of reach instead of everyone breathing it.

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      • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah sure, coal plants obviously have to go. But why not invest in sustainable energy production?

        Nuclear waste cannot just be buried, unless you don’t care about polluting huge areas with radioactivity. In Germany, there have been decades long debates where to store nuclear waste and even to this day there hasn’t been found a good storage for the waste we produced in the 70ies. And this shit costs billions of euros that the company profiting of the plant doesn’t have to pay but that in turn society has to pay.

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      • infinitevalence@discuss.online ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You forgot all the heavy metals too! Lots of brutal heavy metals in coal emissions and waste, which we dont get even in low level fission waste.

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  • theangriestbird@beehaw.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This was posted in c/Environment yesterday. I bring that up to point you over to that thread, where @Powderhorn@beehaw.org had some great insights into why this move is more regressive than it sounds.

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    • sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So originally I wasn’t federated with !environment@beehaw.org so couldn’t read the post, I’ve now read it and can understand everything I didn’t before. It’s disappointing. But I’m glad that wave power was mentioned as I think that will be huge in the coming years. Hopefully it’s not as far off as @Powderhorn@beehaw.org suspects. I feel like with ground source heat pumps, we have heating sorted, but we’re still looking for solutions in power and wave seems the obvious solution.

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      • Powderhorn@beehaw.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s an investment problem. No one is doing scalable wave power because the money is in offshore wind.

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    • sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thank you

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